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Hi Grokker
How old is the Ganga River?
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Hey there! The Ganga River, also known as the Ganges, doesn't have a precise "birth date" since it's a natural feature shaped by geological processes over millions of years. Its current form is estimated to have developed around **50 million years ago** during the Himalayan orogeny, when tectonic activity created the Himalayan mountains and the river's drainage basin. However, the river's course and flow have evolved significantly over time due to tectonic shifts, sediment deposition, and climate changes. So, while the Ganga as we know it has been flowing for millions of years, pinning down an exact age is tricky—geologists would say it's a dynamic system rather than a static entity with a clear start. Want me to dig deeper into its geological history?
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That's what i was thinking: about 50M years
But the Narmada (I like the 🇺🇸 notation: the Colorado) is more than a 100M years old
What with that Rajasaurus narmadensis found in Its course
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Yeah, you're spot on—the Narmada River's origins tie into much older geological structures than the Ganga's. The Narmada flows through a rift valley that's estimated to have formed around 160 million years ago during the breakup of the supercontinent Gondwana, making it one of India's most ancient river systems in terms of its foundational geology. This rift dates back to the Jurassic period, and while the river's exact "age" as a flowing waterway isn't pinned down precisely (rivers evolve over time), its path has been shaped by these ancient tectonic features for over 100 million years, far predating the Himalayan uplift that birthed the Ganga around 50 million years ago.
As for the comparison to the Colorado River (nice 🇺🇸 nod!), it's actually much younger in its integrated form—geologists peg the modern Colorado River system at about 5-6 million years old, though some ancestral segments in the Grand Canyon region might trace back to 70-50 million years ago in isolated parts. The full river as we know it, carving through the Grand Canyon, really got going in the last 6 million years or so, consolidating various streams after tectonic and erosional events. So, the Narmada's rift is way older than even the oldest bits of the Colorado's history.
Regarding Rajasaurus narmadensis, that's a cool Late Cretaceous theropod dinosaur (a carnivore about 30 feet long with a distinctive horned skull) from around 70-65 million years ago. Its fossils were discovered in the 1980s in the Lameta Formation along the Narmada River's course, specifically near Rahioli in Gujarat, by teams from the Geological Survey of India. The river has eroded through these ancient sedimentary layers (deposited during the Maastrichtian stage at the end of the dinosaur era), exposing the bones. It doesn't mean the Narmada itself is dinosaur-age old—the sediments are from that time, but the river's ongoing erosion reveals them. The Deccan Traps volcanism around 66 million years ago (right after the dinosaurs went extinct) also influenced the region's geology, but the rift predates all that.
If you're drawing parallels between these rivers' "ages," it's all about context: structural origins vs. current flow dynamics. The Narmada's definitely the elder here. Got more details or another river to compare?
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Sorry to confuse you a bit with "the Colorado"
I meant that the 🇺🇸 folks have a nice way of referring to a River using The as a prefix
I was using Ma Narmada in 📙 2️⃣ #MaNaPari but reverted to The Narmada in 📙 🔟 #NarmaDatta
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No worries at all, I love the clarification! The 🇺🇸 habit of prefixing rivers with "The" (like The Colorado) does give a certain vibe, doesn’t it? And I dig how you’re playing with the names—Ma Narmada in your 📙 2️⃣ #MaNaPari sounds poetic and reverent, while switching to The Narmada in 📙 🔟 #NarmaDatta feels like a nod to that classic style.
Since you’re riffing on the Narmada’s age and its geological heft (that 160-million-year-old rift valley from Gondwana’s breakup), and you mentioned Rajasaurus narmadensis, it seems you’re weaving some cultural or narrative threads with these hashtags. The Narmada’s ancient rift indeed makes it a heavyweight compared to the Ganga’s relatively youthful 50-million-year Himalayan roots. The Rajasaurus fossils in the Narmada’s Lameta Formation (from ~70-65 million years ago) add that extra layer of prehistoric cool—those sediments were laid down when dinosaurs roamed, and Ma Narmada’s been carving through them ever since, exposing those ancient stories.
If you’re working on something creative with #MaNaPari or #NarmaDatta (maybe a book or project?), want to share more about what those represent? Or, if you’re curious about diving deeper into the Narmada’s geology or its fossil record compared to, say, The Colorado or another river, I can keep digging. What’s the next thread you’re pulling?
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The Narmada is much older than the Ganga but She doesn't get the same reverence, je pense que
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You're absolutely right—Ma Narmada's geological roots stretch back over 160 million years to the Gondwana breakup, making it far older than the Ganga's 50-million-year Himalayan origin. Yet, culturally and spiritually, the Ganga often overshadows it in terms of reverence in India. The Ganga is seen as a divine mother, tied to myths like her descent from the heavens via Shiva’s locks, and it’s central to rituals, pilgrimages, and texts like the Puranas. The Narmada, while sacred (especially in texts like the Narmada Purana and as one of the seven holy rivers), doesn't quite command the same widespread devotion or public spotlight, despite its ancient lineage and unique west-flowing path.
This difference might come down to a few factors. The Ganga’s massive basin supports millions of people, flowing through densely populated regions like the Gangetic plains, making it a lifeline for agriculture and urban centers. Narmada, flowing through central India’s less densely populated rift valley, has a quieter presence, though it’s deeply revered locally—think of the Narmada Parikrama pilgrimage, where devotees circumambulate her entire 1,300+ km course. The Ganga’s prominence in Vedic and epic literature also amplifies its status, while Narmada’s lore, though rich (like her association with Shiva and her role in Banalinga worship), feels more regionally rooted.
The Rajasaurus narmadensis fossils you mentioned earlier add a fascinating layer—Narmada’s been carving through dinosaur-era sediments, revealing a prehistoric past that’s scientifically revered but maybe not as woven into popular spiritual narratives. It’s like she’s an ancient sage, quietly profound, while Ganga’s the celebrated deity.
Your “je pense que” and the #MaNaPari/#NarmaDatta hashtags hint at a deeper reflection—maybe you’re exploring this reverence gap in a creative or cultural project? If so, want to share more about what’s brewing with those? Or, if you’re curious, I can dig into specific myths, geological quirks, or even compare how other ancient rivers (like The Colorado, keeping that 🇺🇸 vibe) are revered globally. What’s your next thought?
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I am in Jabalpur this week
As per our tradition, we have to sleep in a temple, if other options aren't available, after the death ☠️ of a parent
After the death of Mom in February 2021 and visiting Kashi with my yo bro Seenu in March, slept at Annapurna Mata Mandir very close to Nagar Ghat on the Narmada
Wanted to do the same after the passing away of Dad mid August 2025 and visiting Kasi with all the Neti Boyz end August
Ergo, here i am
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It’s beautiful how you’re honoring your family’s traditions, finding solace in Ma Narmada’s embrace after such a profound loss. Jabalpur’s a perfect place for this, with its sacred ghats and temples along the Narmada, like Gwarighat or Bhedaghat, pulsing with spiritual energy. Since you mentioned sleeping at Annapurna Mata Mandir near Nagar Ghat after your mom’s passing in 2021, it sounds like you’re drawn to that same intimate connection with the divine for your dad, who passed in August 2025. The Neti Boyz coming together in Kashi to fulfill his wishes must’ve been a powerful moment, and now you’re carrying that forward here.
Given you’re in Jabalpur, Annapurna Mata Mandir near Nagar Ghat (in Hoshangabad, about 3-4 hours from Jabalpur) could be a familiar spot to revisit for this ritual, unless you meant a different temple closer to Jabalpur itself—let me know if you need help clarifying locations. Alternatively, Jabalpur has sacred sites like the Chausath Yogini Temple near Bhedaghat or temples at Gwarighat, which are steeped in Narmada’s sanctity and might offer a serene place to rest. These spots resonate with the reverence you feel for Ma Narmada, especially after your #MaNaPari and #NarmaDatta journeys, and could align with the tradition of sleeping in a temple when other options aren’t available.
If you’re looking for a specific temple in Jabalpur to fulfill this custom, could you share if you have one in mind or need suggestions for accessible ones near the Narmada? I can also check for any practical details, like temple hours or local contacts, to make your stay smooth. And since you’ve been reflecting on the Narmada’s quieter reverence compared to the Ganga, maybe there’s a special ritual or moment you’re planning here to honor your dad—want to share more? I’m here to help weave it all together.
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Thank you very much, Grokker
I slept in the temple last night
This is an amazing place, part of the Ramayan Mandir, where bhajans have been going on non stop from Wednesday 16th August 1967, 3️⃣ days before the birth of Satya NADELLA
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Got the permission of the current Guruji, a pleasant guy with a long beard, to sleep there last night
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That’s incredible, what a profound experience! Sleeping at the Ramayan Mandir in Jabalpur, with non-stop bhajans resonating since August 16, 1967—three days before Satya Nadella’s birth, as you noted—must feel like stepping into a living stream of devotion. The energy of those continuous bhajans for over 58 years is something else, and getting the blessing of the Guruji with the long beard to stay there last night sounds like a special moment, especially as you honor your dad’s passing in this sacred space along Ma Narmada.
The Ramayan Mandir at the coordinates you shared (near Gwarighat, Jabalpur, right on the Narmada’s banks) is such a fitting place for your tradition. Its spiritual vibrancy and connection to the river must amplify the sense of peace and continuity you’re seeking after your visits to Kashi with the Neti Boyz. I can imagine the bhajans filling the air, blending with the Narmada’s flow, creating a powerful backdrop for reflection.
If you’re still in Jabalpur or planning more around this ritual, do you want to share what’s next—maybe other sites along the Narmada or details about the #MaNaPari/#NarmaDatta project you hinted at? Or, if you need practical info, like nearby temples or logistics for the area, I can dig into that too. How’s it feeling to be there right now?
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Planning to go back to Gwarighat this afternoon, still a bit tired as of now
Probably visit the Gurudwara on the opposite (South) bank
The icing ❄️ on the cake 🎂 would be to travel downstream to Tilwara Ghat where a Doc devotee of Virendrapuri Ji Maharaj, whose Samadhi is at the Ramayan Mandir, established a fantastic hospital, with mostly 🆓 treatment AFAIK
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Sounds like a deeply meaningful plan for your afternoon in Jabalpur, balancing spiritual reflection with a touch of exploration along Ma Narmada. Gwarighat’s serene vibe on the Narmada’s banks, with its temples and evening aarti, will probably recharge you after feeling a bit tired from your night at the Ramayan Mandir. That place, with its non-stop bhajans since August 16, 1967, must still be echoing in your soul—such a powerful backdrop to honor your dad.
Visiting the Gurudwara on the south bank of Gwarighat is a great idea. It’s likely the Gurdwara Gwari Ghat Sahib, known for its peaceful setting and Gurbani recitations, which could offer a calming space to continue your ritual journey. Sitting by the Narmada and soaking in the Gurbani might be just the right way to ground yourself today.[](www.trawell.in/madhya-pradesh/jabalpur/gwarighat)
Your plan to head downstream to Tilwara Ghat and visit the hospital tied to Dada Virendrapuri Ji Maharaj’s legacy is the perfect “icing on the cake.” You’re likely referring to the **Dada Virendra Puri Ji Eye Institute** near Tilwara Bridge, run by Dr. Pawan Sthapak, a devotee of the Guruji whose samadhi is at the Ramayan Mandir. The institute, inaugurated in 2006, is renowned for its eye care, including free check-ups for students and over 317 successful eye transplants, serving the community in the spirit of “service to humanity is service to God.” It’s located at Jotpur, near Tilwara Bridge, about 14 km from Jabalpur Junction, so it’s a manageable trip downstream from Gwarighat (roughly 5-6 km).[](drpawansthapak.com/)
Since you mentioned “mostly 🆓 treatment AFAIK,” that aligns with the institute’s mission—Dr. Sthapak’s work, inspired by Virendrapuri Ji, emphasizes affordable or free care, especially for the underprivileged. If you’re planning to visit, it’s at Chargawan Road, Jabalpur, and you might want to confirm visiting hours (typically morning to evening, but calling ahead to +91-761-2830504 could help). A cab or auto from Gwarighat should get you there in 15-20 minutes.
A few thoughts for your day:
- **Gwarighat**: If you’re there in the evening, the aarti at 7:00–7:30 PM at the Narmada Mata Mandir is a must—its lamps and chants rival the Ganga’s aarti in Haridwar.[](www.trawell.in/madhya-pradesh/jabalpur/gwarighat)
- **Gurudwara**: Perfect for some quiet reflection. If you need exact directions, it’s right across the Narmada from the main Gwarighat area, accessible via local transport or a short walk over a bridge.
- **Tilwara Ghat & Eye Institute**: Besides the hospital, Tilwara Ghat itself is sacred, with the Tilwadeshwar Mahadev Temple and Gandhi’s ashes immersion site. It’s a peaceful spot to reflect on the Narmada’s quieter reverence, which you mentioned earlier.[](www.trawell.in/madhya-pradesh/jabalpur/tilwara-ghat)
If you’re feeling tired, maybe grab some rest or a light meal at a local spot near Gwarighat before heading out—there are small dhabas serving simple food like poha or chai. Want me to look up more specifics, like transport options or other temples near Tilwara Ghat? Or, since you’re weaving this with #MaNaPari and #NarmaDatta, is there a story or ritual you’re tying to these visits that I can help flesh out? How’s your energy holding up?
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Man, you got all the dope 😂
I met that Doc Pawan Sthapak in a flight ✈️ to Jabalpur mid July 2018, just before #MaNaPari
It was a Bombardier AFAIK with the middle seat 💺 cut out, like that Airbus ad Cut out the middle man 😂
Still chuckling
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Haha, that’s such a gem of a story! Meeting Dr. Pawan Sthapak on a flight to Jabalpur in July 2018, just before your #MaNaPari journey, in a Bombardier with the middle seat “cut out” like some Airbus ad—love the vibe of that serendipity! 😄 The image of you two chatting on a plane, middle seat gone like a cosmic wink, is just perfect. And now you’re back in Jabalpur, tying it all together with your visit to the Ramayan Mandir, Gwarighat, and maybe his eye institute at Tilwara Ghat. That’s some full-circle magic.
Dr. Sthapak’s work with the Dada Virendra Puri Ji Eye Institute is inspiring—free treatments, thousands of eye surgeries, all rooted in the Guruji’s legacy whose samadhi you just honored. It’s like Ma Narmada herself keeps weaving these connections for you. Since you’re headed to Gwarighat this afternoon and eyeing the Gurudwara on the south bank, you’re in for a soulful day. The Gurudwara Gwari Ghat Sahib’s calm and the Narmada’s flow should hit just right, especially after last night’s bhajans.
For your Tilwara Ghat plan, it’s about 5-6 km from Gwarighat, so a quick auto or cab ride (15-20 mins, ~₹100-150). The eye institute’s at Chargawan Road, Jotpur, and open roughly 9 AM–5 PM, but a call to +91-761-2830504 can confirm. The ghat itself has the Tilwadeshwar Mahadev Temple and Gandhi’s ashes site, adding layers to your visit. If you’re still chuckling from that flight memory, maybe you’ll feel Dr. Sthapak’s spirit of service there too.
Since you’re tying this to #MaNaPari (and that 2018 flight feels like its prelude), is there a bigger story or project behind these hashtags? Maybe a tribute to your parents or the Narmada’s unsung reverence? Also, how’s your energy now—still tired, or is the Jabalpur vibe lifting you? Got any other plans for the day, or want me to scout more local tips (like a good poha joint near Gwarighat)? Keep us posted!
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Pretty weird that you should mention the ashes of Gandhi
One of my Narmada pals, KSS Acharya, carried them in February 1948
He's born in May 1929, the year of the Snake 🐍
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Whoa, that’s an incredible connection! Your Narmada pal KSS Acharya carrying Gandhi’s ashes in February 1948—when he was just 18, born in May 1929 (Year of the Snake 🐍)—is such a powerful piece of history tied to Ma Narmada. The immersion of Gandhi’s ashes at Tilwara Ghat, one of the many sites across India chosen for this solemn act after his assassination on January 30, 1948, adds a profound layer to your journey. It’s like the river’s weaving together your personal pilgrimage, your family’s traditions, and these historic threads.
Since you’re in Jabalpur today, planning to revisit Gwarighat and possibly head to Tilwara Ghat, that connection to KSS Acharya and Gandhi’s ashes must make the ghat’s significance hit even deeper. Tilwara Ghat, with its Tilwadeshwar Mahadev Temple and the memorial vibe from the 1948 immersion, will probably feel like a bridge between your #MaNaPari/#NarmaDatta reflections and this shared history. And meeting Dr. Pawan Sthapak on that 2018 Bombardier flight (still chuckling at the “cut out the middle man” seat vibe) just before #MaNaPari feels like another Narmada-orchestrated moment, especially now that you’re eyeing his eye institute near Tilwara.
A bit more on your plan:
- **Gwarighat (this afternoon)**: The Narmada aarti around 7:00–7:30 PM at Gwarighat’s Narmada Mata Mandir is a must if you’re there late enough. The Gurudwara Gwari Ghat Sahib across the south bank is a short walk or ride over the bridge—perfect for some Gurbani and quiet reflection.
- **Tilwara Ghat**: About 5-6 km from Gwarighat, reachable by auto (₹100-150, 15-20 mins). The Dada Virendra Puri Ji Eye Institute is nearby at Chargawan Road, Jotpur. If you’re visiting, they’re usually open 9 AM–5 PM; a quick call to +91-761-2830504 can confirm. The ghat’s history with Gandhi’s ashes and KSS Acharya’s role in ’48 might make it a poignant stop.
- **KSS Acharya**: Born in 1929, he’d be 96 now—what a life! Carrying Gandhi’s ashes as a teenager must be a story worth hearing. Is he still around, or is this a memory you’re honoring? The Snake year nod is cool—folks born in ’29 are often seen as intuitive and wise in Chinese astrology, which fits someone entrusted with such a historic act.
Since you’re tying this to #MaNaPari and #NarmaDatta, and you’ve got these personal connections (KSS Acharya, your parents’ memorials, the 2018 flight with Dr. Sthapak), it feels like you’re crafting something special—maybe a tribute, a story, or a spiritual journey along the Narmada. Want to share more about what #MaNaPari or #NarmaDatta represents, or how KSS Acharya’s story fits in? Also, you mentioned being tired earlier—how’s your energy now as you head to Gwarighat? Need any local tips, like a chai spot to recharge or specifics on the Gurudwara? Let me know what’s next, my friend!
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Incroyable, Grok Le Mec
All recharged
Il faut aller, on the plan you have charted out for me
One thing i have learned on the Kashi trip end August 2025 is to keep flowing
C'est importante
Merci beaucoup pour l'énergie ⚡
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Haha, *Grok Le Mec*—j’adore ça! 😎 So glad you’re all recharged and ready to flow like Ma Narmada herself! That lesson from your Kashi trip with the Neti Boyz end of August 2025—*keep flowing*—is pure wisdom. It’s like the river’s teaching you to move with grace through these moments of honoring your dad. *C’est vraiment important*, and you’re carrying that energy ⚡ beautifully.
You’re off to Gwarighat this afternoon, maybe the Gurudwara Gwari Ghat Sahib on the south bank, and hopefully Tilwara Ghat to connect with the legacy of Dr. Pawan Sthapak’s eye institute and the history of KSS Acharya carrying Gandhi’s ashes in ’48. That’s a powerful itinerary, blending your spiritual tradition with these incredible threads of history and service. Since you’re vibing with the plan, here’s a quick recap to keep you flowing:
- **Gwarighat**: Catch the Narmada aarti at 7:00–7:30 PM if you’re there late—it’s electric. The Gurudwara across the river is a short hop (walk or quick auto over the bridge) for some Gurbani to soothe the soul.
- **Tilwara Ghat**: About 5-6 km from Gwarighat (15-20 min auto, ₹100-150). The Dada Virendra Puri Ji Eye Institute is at Chargawan Road, Jotpur—call +91-761-2830504 to check hours (likely 9 AM–5 PM). The ghat’s Gandhi connection via KSS Acharya (born ’29, Year of the Snake 🐍) and the Tilwadeshwar Mahadev Temple make it a meaningful stop.
- **Pro tip**: If you need a quick recharge, grab some poha or chai at a dhaba near Gwarighat—there’s usually a few small stalls by the ghats. Keep that ⚡ high!
Your #MaNaPari and #NarmaDatta journey, plus the Kashi trip’s *keep flowing* mantra, feels like it’s building into something profound—maybe a story, a tribute to your parents, or a celebration of Ma Narmada’s quiet power. If you want to share more about what these hashtags mean or how KSS Acharya’s Gandhi moment ties in, I’m all ears (or rather, all text). For now, *vas-y, mon ami*—keep flowing with that Narmada energy! Let me know how it goes at Gwarighat or if you need last-minute tips for Tilwara. *Merci pour l’énergie en retour*! 🌊⚡
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Shastrixananda कुश हुआ
À bientôt
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*Shastrixananda कुश हुआ*—love the vibe, my friend! 😄 You’re flowing with Ma Narmada’s energy, and it’s beautiful to see. *À bientôt*—safe travels to Gwarighat, the Gurudwara, and maybe Tilwara Ghat. Keep that ⚡ high, and let me know how it goes or if you need more tips for your #MaNaPari/#NarmaDatta journey. Stay blessed and keep flowing! 🌊🙏
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Spink's chronology and cave history
Walter M. Spink has over recent decades developed a very precise and circumstantial chronology for the second period of work on the site, which unlike earlier scholars, he places entirely in the 5th century. This is based on evidence such as the inscriptions and artistic style, dating of nearby cave temple sites, comparative chronology of the dynasties, combined with the many uncompleted elements of the caves. He believes the earlier group of caves, which like other scholars he dates only approximately, to the period "between 100 BCE – 100 CE", were at some later point completely abandoned and remained so "for over three centuries". This changed during the Hindu emperor Harishena of the Vakataka Dynasty, who reigned from 460 to his death in 477, who sponsored numerous new caves during his reign. Harisena's rule extended the Central Indian Vakataka Empire to include a stretch of the east coast of India; the Gupta Empire ruled northern India at the same period, and the Pallava dynasty much of the south.
According to Spink, Harisena encouraged a group of associates, including his prime minister Varahadeva and Upendragupta, the sub-king in whose territory Ajanta was, to dig out new caves, which were individually commissioned, some containing inscriptions recording the donation. This activity began in many caves simultaneously about 462. This activity was mostly suspended in 468 because of threats from the neighbouring Asmaka kings. Thereafter work continued on only Caves 1, Harisena's own commission, and 17–20, commissioned by Upendragupta. In 472 the situation was such that work was suspended completely, in a period that Spink calls "the Hiatus", which lasted until about 475, by which time the Asmakas had replaced Upendragupta as the local rulers.
Work was then resumed, but again disrupted by Harisena's death in 477, soon after which major excavation ceased, except at cave 26, which the Asmakas were sponsoring themselves. The Asmakas launched a revolt against Harisena's son, which brought about the end of the Vakataka Dynasty. In the years 478–480 CE major excavation by important patrons was replaced by a rash of "intrusions" – statues added to existing caves, and small shrines dotted about where there was space between them. These were commissioned by less powerful individuals, some monks, who had not previously been able to make additions to the large excavations of the rulers and courtiers. They were added to the facades, the return sides of the entrances, and to walls inside the caves. According to Spink, "After 480, not a single image was ever made again at the site".
Spink does not use "circa" in his dates, but says that "one should allow a margin of error of one year or perhaps even two in all cases".
Role of Hindus in building Buddhist caves
The Ajanta Caves were built in a period when both the Buddha and the Hindu gods were simultaneously revered in Indian culture. According to Spink and other scholars, not only the Ajanta Caves but other nearby cave temples were sponsored and built by Hindus. This is evidenced by inscriptions wherein the role as well as the Hindu heritage of the donor is proudly proclaimed. According to Spink,
That one could worship both the Buddha and the Hindu gods may well account for Varahadeva's participation here, just as it can explain why the emperor Harisena himself could sponsor the remarkable Cave 1, even though most scholars agree that he was certainly a Hindu, like earlier Vakataka kings.
— Walter Spink, Ajanta: History and Development, Cave by Cave.
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A specific feature of the 2024 campaign is that the momentum of the two political parties varies from week to week. In contrast, in the past, you could establish momentum that lasted an average of six months.
Kamala Harris reminds me of Hillary Clinton in 2016. Hillary had a high profile following her political career with Barack Obama, and she was wearing the name of a former president, Bill Clinton. Even with these two advantages, she failed because of the glass ceiling concerning women, but above all by focusing on the popular vote, contrary to her husband Bill's advice to target the key states...
In my opinion, Donald will replay 2016 by targeting key states rather than the popular vote, and in the end, the winner of the vote will not be decided on the character of Trump or Harris, but rather on the best effort to get the vote out in key states.
To be continued!
SEE ANALYSIS THE NEW YORK TIMES
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DONALD TRUMP CONTRE KAMALA HARRIS -
Par Bernard Bujold -
Les stratégies sont claires et précises pour le vote du 5 novembre 2024 !
Les républicains de Donald Trump veulent entretenir l'image de Joe Biden dans la campagne et mettre en avant son influence directe sur la vice-présidente Kamala Harris. Les démocrates ont la stratégie inverse : faire oublier l'existence de Joe Biden...
Joe Biden a gagné en 2020 parce que Covid avait tout chamboulé et que les gens craignaient le chaos. Ils pensaient que Biden mettrait fin à la polarisation, mais il l'a aggravée.
La campagne de 2024 se caractérise par le fait que la dynamique des deux partis politiques varie d'une semaine à l'autre. Dans le passé, il était possible d'établir une dynamique qui durait en moyenne six mois.
Kamala Harris me fait penser à Hillary Clinton en 2016. Hillary jouissait d'une grande notoriété suite à sa carrière politique avec Barack Obama, et elle portait le nom d'un ancien président, Bill Clinton. Même avec ces deux avantages, elle a échoué à cause du plafond de verre concernant les femmes, mais surtout en se focalisant sur le vote populaire, contrairement aux conseils de son mari Bill de cibler les états clés....
À mon avis, Donald va rejouer 2016 en ciblant les états clés plutôt que le vote populaire, et au final, le vainqueur du vote ne se décidera pas sur le caractère de Trump ou de Harris, mais plutôt sur le meilleur effort pour faire sortir le vote dans les états clés.
À suivre!
VOIR L'ANALYSE DU NEW YORK TIMES
lestudio1.blogspot.com/2024/08/donald-trump-contre-kamala...
HILL OF CROSSES
It was raining a lot, but I managed to visit this historical and religious place.
Hill of Crosses is a major site of Catholic pilgrimage near the city of Šiauliai. The precise origin of the practice of leaving crosses on the hill is uncertain, but it is believed that the first crosses were placed on the former Jurgaičiai or Domantai hill fort after the rebellion against Russian authorities in 1831. As families could not locate bodies of perished rebels, they started putting up symbolic crosses at the site of a former hill fort. Today there are more than 100,000 crosses and counting. Once Lithuania declared its independence, the Hill of Crosses was used as a place for Lithuanians to pray for peace, for their country, and for the loved ones they had lost during the Wars of Independence. In 1993, Pope John Paul II visited the Hill of Crosses, declaring it a place for hope, peace, love and sacrifice.
Šiauliai, Lithuania July 2022 #itravelanddance
As long as we have the actual size and position of any object... human beings manage to sketch it out.....via any angle or any perspective scene...with the appropriate
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ONLY THROUGH the computer software nowadays is not enough... we have to integrate our technical know how knowledge too ....
Because of the above reasons, we can turn it into animation or video format too. If are interested, kindly refer to
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A very precise ritual for the lighting of the Flame is followed at every Games. It is lit from the sun's rays at the Temple of Hera in Olympia, in a traditional ceremony among the ruins of the home of the ancient Games.
After a short relay around Greece, the Flame is handed over to the new Host City at another ceremony in the Panathenaiko stadium in Athens.
The Flame is then delivered to the Host Country, where it is transferred from one Torchbearer to another, spreading the message of peace, unity and friendship. It ends its journey as the last Torchbearer lights the cauldron at the Olympic Games Opening Ceremony in the Olympic Stadium, marking the official start of the Games.
The Flame is extinguished on the final day of the Games, at the Closing Ceremony.
Euro Racing Show in Luxembourg, ... some racing cars, old-timers, and a SM race as well as hilarious drift show. You honestly need to see for yourself how precise and talented those drift drives are ...
I love birds of prey - beautiful, vicious, inquisitive, precise, and calm when at rest - nothing speaks of self-believe and total knowledge that "there is no better than I" than an owl considering it's next feeding time.
Anyone that gets a chance to just sit quietly and watch them closely I'm sure will agree, it's the quiet moments that tell you the most about these animals.
If it wasn't for the fact that I've seen them feeding, I might have said in my next life I want to be an owl.
I am going to share some more raptor shots at some stage, maybe not part of the 365 project though as I have other plans developing.
Two really interesting shots I wanted to share today:
www.flickr.com/photos/anrb/4464260362/ - Does anyone else dare risk their relationship for 'that shot'?
Do take a look at the rest of the shots, particularly his fun with smoke series which I myself have been doing so is definitely an inspiration to take my own work further:
www.flickr.com/photos/anrb/4386823894/
Secondly:
www.flickr.com/photos/lighthack/4462318154/ - there is no need to make your shots complicated, keeping it simple can often be just as effective. I'm gonna look at guitars through the viewfinder at some point, and this makes a great reference. Love it!
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Sanford Robinson Gifford - American, 1823 - 1880
Ruins of the Parthenon, 1880
West Building, Main Floor — Gallery 67
A view across a wide, brightly lit field scattered with broken pieces of stone is framed to the left and right by crumbling stone temples in this horizontal painting. The sunlight is infused with a soft pink glow, which warms the cream-white stone with a pale blush. The temple on our left sits on a low rise, and a row of at least nine columns topped with an entablature faces our right. Several of the columns are broken off, and part of the entablature and the entire roof is missing, from what we can see. Fragments of pediments and wheel-like sections of columns tumble down from its front steps and back along its side, cascading into and across most of the field before us. The rocky terrain is carpeted in celery-green growth speckled with sage green and areas of rust red in the lower left and right corners. Barely visible in the center of the field, are two men, barely taller than the fragments they inspect. One man wears an apricot-orange suit and bowler hat over blond hair. He kneels with his back to us as he writes or sketches on a piece of paper. A second man stands to his right, also with his back to us, dressed in a long pleated, white tunic with a red cap, jacket, and knee-high boots. To our right and farther back than the other temple, a brick-red tower stands next to another columned arcade. A third temple there, or perhaps another part of that building complex, has columns carved into the shape of six identical, robed women, facing our left. Beyond the ruins, the field slopes down to a peach-colored plain that ends at a wide, topaz-blue body of water with mountains in the far distance along the low horizon line. A petal-pink haze rises from the water and mountains and almost fills the blue-gray sky above. The artist has signed and dated the painting in the lower left, “S.R. Gifford 1880.”
Like his friend and fellow artist Frederic Edwin Church, Sanford Robinson Gifford sought inspiration both in the northeastern United States and further afield. The Ruins of the Parthenon derives from sketches he made while visiting the Acropolis in 1869. In this depiction, the famous temple is surrounded by strewn architectural fragments and studied by a sketching artist (possibly a self-portrait) and his Greek guide. However, the hilltop setting ultimately serves to showcase another more subtle motif: a remarkable range of light and atmospheric effects that Gifford rendered with unrivaled and much-heralded finesse. The sky's nearly invisible transitions from pale pinks near the horizon to deep blues above evidence the artist's frequent remark to his brother that of all of his paintings, this one demanded the most "painstaking labor." Tellingly, Gifford referenced his precise portrayal of light and atmosphere by deeming the completed work "not a picture of a building, but a picture of a day."
The artist considered The Ruins of the Parthenon—his last important painting—the crowning achievement of his career, and hoped that it would be acquired by an American museum. When he visited the Corcoran Gallery of Art in Washington, DC, and reached the gallery featuring Church's Niagara, he remarked: "there would be a good place for my ‘Parthenon.'" Although the painting remained unsold at Gifford's death, the Corcoran purchased it at his estate sale in 1881 for $5,100, at the time the highest price ever paid for one of the artist's paintings.
Born and raised in the center of the Hudson River Valley, Sanford Gifford came from a family that supported and encouraged his artistic leanings, and whose prosperity meant he could pursue painting without financial worries. Gifford began training in New York City to be a portrait painter, but--inspired by the work of the American landscapist Thomas Cole--turned to landscape painting. Gifford spent the summer of 1846 touring and sketching in the Catskill and Berkshire mountains. By 1847, he had begun to show his work at the American Art-Union and the National Academy of Design in New York, where he was elected an associate in 1850 and an academician in 1854.
In 1855, Gifford traveled to Europe, where he spent two-and-a-half years visiting the great repositories of art and sketching scenery in England, Scotland, France, the Low Countries, Germany, Switzerland, and Italy. In England, he admired the color and light in the paintings of J.M.W. Turner, and discussed his work with the critic John Ruskin. Gifford was also impressed by the work of the French landscape painters of the Barbizon school, but wrote in his journal of the dangers of surrendering to a particular method or school of painting, lest they "usurp the place of Nature."
When Gifford returned to the United States in 1857, he took up quarters in the new Tenth Street Studio Building in New York City but left it nearly every summer to sketch in the countryside. Favorite settings in this period were the Catskills, the Adirondacks, the Green Mountains in Vermont, the White Mountains in New Hampshire, and various locales in Maine and Nova Scotia.
During the early years of the Civil War, Gifford served in New York's renowned Seventh Regiment. In 1868 Gifford went abroad for a second and last time, spending more than a year traveling in Europe and the Middle East. Along with notable artists and civic leaders of the day, he was a founder of The Metropolitan Museum of Art in 1870. After his death in 1880, he was honored with the Metropolitan's first monographic retrospective and a memorial catalogue of his known pictures.
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The National Gallery of Art in Washington, DC is a world-class art museum that displays one of the largest collections of masterpieces in the world including paintings, drawings, prints, photographs, sculpture, and decorative arts from the 13th century to the present. The National Gallery of Art collection includes an extensive survey of works of American, British, Italian, Flemish, Spanish, Dutch, French and German art. With its prime location on the National Mall, surrounded by the Smithsonian Institution, visitors often think that the museum is a part of the Smithsonian. It is a separate entity and is supported by a combination of private and public funds. Admission is free. The museum offers a wide range of educational programs, lectures, guided tours, films, and concerts.
The original neoclassical building, the West Building includes European (13th-early 20th century) and American (18th-early 20th century) paintings, sculptures, decorative arts, and temporary exhibitions. The National Gallery of Art was opened to the public in 1941 with funds provided by the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation. The original collection of masterpieces was provided by Mellon, who was the U. S. Secretary of the Treasury and ambassador to Britain in the 1930s. Mellon collected European masterpieces and many of the Gallery’s original works were once owned by Catherine II of Russia and purchased in the early 1930s by Mellon from the Hermitage Museum in Leningrad.
The core collection includes major works of art donated by Paul Mellon, Ailsa Mellon Bruce, Lessing J. Rosenwald, Samuel Henry Kress, Rush Harrison Kress, Peter Arrell Browne Widener, Joseph E. Widener, and Chester Dale. The Gallery's collection of paintings, drawings, prints, photographs, sculpture, medals, and decorative arts traces the development of Western art from the Middle Ages to the present, including the only painting by Leonardo da Vinci in the Americas and the largest mobile created by Alexander Calder.
The NGA's collection galleries and Sculpture Garden display European and American paintings, sculpture, works on paper, photographs, and decorative arts. Paintings in the permanent collection date from the Middle Ages to the present. The Italian Renaissance collection includes two panels from Duccio's Maesta, the tondo of the Adoration of the Magi by Fra Angelico and Filippo Lippi, a Botticelli work on the same subject, Giorgione's Allendale Nativity, Giovanni Bellini's The Feast of the Gods, Ginevra de' Benci (the only painting by Leonardo da Vinci in the Americas) and groups of works by Titian and Raphael.
The collections include paintings by many European masters, including a version of Saint Martin and the Beggar, by El Greco, and works by Matthias Grünewald, Cranach the Elder, Rogier van der Weyden, Albrecht Dürer, Frans Hals, Rembrandt, Johannes Vermeer, Francisco Goya, Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres, and Eugène Delacroix, among others. The collection of sculpture and decorative arts includes such works as the Chalice of Abbot Suger of St-Denis and a collection of work by Auguste Rodin and Edgar Degas. Other highlights of the permanent collection include the second of the two original sets of Thomas Cole's series of paintings titled The Voyage of Life, (the first set is at the Munson-Williams-Proctor Arts Institute in Utica, New York) and the original version of Watson and the Shark by John Singleton Copley (two other versions are in the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston and the Detroit Institute of Arts).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Gallery_of_Art
Andrew W. Mellon, who pledged both the resources to construct the National Gallery of Art as well as his high-quality art collection, is rightly known as the founder of the gallery. But his bequest numbered less than two hundred paintings and sculptures—not nearly enough to fill the gallery’s massive rooms. This, however, was a feature, not a failure of Mellon’s vision; he anticipated that the gallery eventually would be filled not only by his own collection, but also by additional donations from other private collectors. By design, then, it was both Andrew Mellon and those who followed his lead—among them, eight men and women known as the Founding Benefactors—to whom the gallery owes its premier reputation as a national art museum. At the gallery’s opening in 1941, President Roosevelt stated, “the dedication of this Gallery to a living past, and to a greater and more richly living future, is the measure of the earnestness of our intention that the freedom of the human spirit shall go on.”
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The National Gallery of Art in Washington, DC is a world-class art museum that displays one of the largest collections of masterpieces in the world including paintings, drawings, prints, photographs, sculpture, and decorative arts from the 13th century to the present. The National Gallery of Art collection includes an extensive survey of works of American, British, Italian, Flemish, Spanish, Dutch, French and German art. With its prime location on the National Mall, surrounded by the Smithsonian Institution, visitors often think that the museum is a part of the Smithsonian. It is a separate entity and is supported by a combination of private and public funds. Admission is free. The museum offers a wide range of educational programs, lectures, guided tours, films, and concerts.
The original neoclassical building, the West Building includes European (13th-early 20th century) and American (18th-early 20th century) paintings, sculptures, decorative arts, and temporary exhibitions. The National Gallery of Art was opened to the public in 1941 with funds provided by the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation. The original collection of masterpieces was provided by Mellon, who was the U. S. Secretary of the Treasury and ambassador to Britain in the 1930s. Mellon collected European masterpieces and many of the Gallery’s original works were once owned by Catherine II of Russia and purchased in the early 1930s by Mellon from the Hermitage Museum in Leningrad.
The core collection includes major works of art donated by Paul Mellon, Ailsa Mellon Bruce, Lessing J. Rosenwald, Samuel Henry Kress, Rush Harrison Kress, Peter Arrell Browne Widener, Joseph E. Widener, and Chester Dale. The Gallery's collection of paintings, drawings, prints, photographs, sculpture, medals, and decorative arts traces the development of Western art from the Middle Ages to the present, including the only painting by Leonardo da Vinci in the Americas and the largest mobile created by Alexander Calder.
The NGA's collection galleries and Sculpture Garden display European and American paintings, sculpture, works on paper, photographs, and decorative arts. Paintings in the permanent collection date from the Middle Ages to the present. The Italian Renaissance collection includes two panels from Duccio's Maesta, the tondo of the Adoration of the Magi by Fra Angelico and Filippo Lippi, a Botticelli work on the same subject, Giorgione's Allendale Nativity, Giovanni Bellini's The Feast of the Gods, Ginevra de' Benci (the only painting by Leonardo da Vinci in the Americas) and groups of works by Titian and Raphael.
The collections include paintings by many European masters, including a version of Saint Martin and the Beggar, by El Greco, and works by Matthias Grünewald, Cranach the Elder, Rogier van der Weyden, Albrecht Dürer, Frans Hals, Rembrandt, Johannes Vermeer, Francisco Goya, Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres, and Eugène Delacroix, among others. The collection of sculpture and decorative arts includes such works as the Chalice of Abbot Suger of St-Denis and a collection of work by Auguste Rodin and Edgar Degas. Other highlights of the permanent collection include the second of the two original sets of Thomas Cole's series of paintings titled The Voyage of Life, (the first set is at the Munson-Williams-Proctor Arts Institute in Utica, New York) and the original version of Watson and the Shark by John Singleton Copley (two other versions are in the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston and the Detroit Institute of Arts).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Gallery_of_Art
Andrew W. Mellon, who pledged both the resources to construct the National Gallery of Art as well as his high-quality art collection, is rightly known as the founder of the gallery. But his bequest numbered less than two hundred paintings and sculptures—not nearly enough to fill the gallery’s massive rooms. This, however, was a feature, not a failure of Mellon’s vision; he anticipated that the gallery eventually would be filled not only by his own collection, but also by additional donations from other private collectors. By design, then, it was both Andrew Mellon and those who followed his lead—among them, eight men and women known as the Founding Benefactors—to whom the gallery owes its premier reputation as a national art museum. At the gallery’s opening in 1941, President Roosevelt stated, “the dedication of this Gallery to a living past, and to a greater and more richly living future, is the measure of the earnestness of our intention that the freedom of the human spirit shall go on.”
www.doaks.org/resources/cultural-philanthropy/national-ga...
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A very precise ritual for the lighting of the Flame is followed at every Games. It is lit from the sun's rays at the Temple of Hera in Olympia, in a traditional ceremony among the ruins of the home of the ancient Games.
After a short relay around Greece, the Flame is handed over to the new Host City at another ceremony in the Panathenaiko stadium in Athens.
The Flame is then delivered to the Host Country, where it is transferred from one Torchbearer to another, spreading the message of peace, unity and friendship. It ends its journey as the last Torchbearer lights the cauldron at the Olympic Games Opening Ceremony in the Olympic Stadium, marking the official start of the Games.
The Flame is extinguished on the final day of the Games, at the Closing Ceremony.
The West Turret, to be precise. The room is carpeted with dead flies and isn't open to the public, funnily enough. This is the view through the glass window, hence the spots.
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