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A four pack of emd local power leads H-GALGFD through Colona, Illinois. This local set would take the manifest up to Ebner siding and tie it down.
A short hop back to a long route in 2011. RV 503 is seen at the Eden Quay terminus of route 65 to Blessington. This is the longest route operated by Dublin Bus, covering approximately 40km. The other contender for this title is the 33 to Balbriggan on the northern edge of County Dublin. However that was based on one bus a day which went via Portrane, but it now terminates in Skerries. The 65 currently has three southern termini: Blessington, Ballymore Eustace and Ballkyknockan. The latter is served twice a day, Monday to Friday, making it one of the more unusual routes in Dublin. Currently in 2018 the 65 departs from underneath Tara Street station on Poolbeg Street. 01/02/2011
It is 1986 and D 653 is seen on one of the shorter bus routes in Dublin. Route 53 connects Dublin Port with the City Centre via the residential area of East Wall. In the past it was a busier route, used by the dock workers in Dublin Port. There was a 53A too which took a more direct route and avoided East Wall. Over time the routes became less popular. Part of this decline can be attributed to the frequent route 151 (started in 2007) which has a terminus on East Road and the Luas tram line to the Point Depot (started in 2009). Under Network Direct the 53A was abolished and the 53 was extended to the Irish Ferries terminal. For a while Dublin Bus also ran a 53B from Heuston Station to this ferry terminal but this was a commercial contract which terminated in 2017.
D 653 was delivered new to Dublin in 1975 and withdrawn in 1994. It is seen on East Road as it climbs over one of the railway yards for the port. In 2019 this is the only remaining yard operated by Irish Rail in the port, the rest having been sold for development. 13/05/1986
Throwback Thursday this week is going back to 1985. KC 82 is seen sitting outside the station at Bray prior to working a route 85 to Shop River. When the local routes around Bray were reorganised in the 1990s, this became the 185 to Shop River (via Enniskerry). Later some 185 departures were introduced to just Palermo. 01/06/1985
It is a grey day in February 2010, and AV 217 is seen in Drumcondra. It is operating route 40A from Parnell Street to Charlestown via Finglas. The 40 family of routes are synonymous with Finglas, although the 40B is a bit of an outlier as it goes to Toberburr near St. Margarets. The 40A served some of the estates in Finglas off Cardiffsbridge Road before terminating in the village. In 2009 the route was extended to the new development at Charlestown. By the end of 2011 the 40A had been absorbed into the new cross-city 40 which ran from Finglas to Liffey Valley. The 40 itself was extended to Charlestown in 2017.
Whitworth Road in Drumcondra runs beside and above the railway line served by trains to Docklands Station. It is a busy bus route with the 40s all serving it. In the past the 13 to Ballymun also went this way. It is also heavily used by Bus Eireann. 12/02/2010
It is 2001 and P 4 is seen on O'Connell Street with a 122 to Ashington. The bus had been delivered to Dublin Bus in 1993 for use on CitySwift route 39 to Clonsilla. However as the CitySwift routes became more popular, they transitioned over to double-deck buses, freeing up the single deckers like the P class. It was not just the CitySwift routes that became more popular, but so did the minibus operated City Imp routes. Therefore the P class were repainted into City Imp yellow/red and transferred to those routes, like the 122. Around the same time, some midibuses were purchased, like the WV in the background of this photo.
The 122 runs from Ashington off the Navan Road to Drimnagh Road via Cabra and Rialto, and still runs today. But it too has now gone over to double-deckers. The route no longer stops outside Easons though,but instead on Upper O'Connell Street. The P Class buses were withdrawn in the early 2000s and transferred to Bus Eireann where they were used on school services.
O'Connell Street, 10/01/2001
It is February 1984 and C 160 only has a few days left in service. This Leyland Leopard with bodywork by Metal Sections Limited was delivered new to CIE in 1966. It was first allocated to Ballina (in County Mayo) when new in 1966. In November 1971 it transferred to Clontarf Garage in Dublin where it continued to work for the next 13 years. With the arrival of the new Bombardier KC Class in February 1984, the final C's were withdrawn and C 160 moved to Dundalk. It took up a new career there as a school-bus which it continued for over a decade before it was finally preserved. Over 50 years after it entered service, this bus is still with us today.
C 160 is seen on Lower Gardiner Street at the terminus for the 27. This route connected the City Centre with Coolock via Fairview and Bonnybrook. In 2011 the route was merged with the 77 become a long cross-city route from Clare Hall to Jobstown. 22/02/1984
It's 1983 and D 279 is seen at the 62 terminus in Kilmacud (or is it Stillorgan?). This terminus is located just off the Lower Kilmacud Road, but is just behind the Stillorgan Shopping Centre. However the route more appropriately served the Kilmacud area, so the destination on the front of the bus is probably the right choice. A number of routes have terminated over the years, the 52, 62, 64, 64A, 46B and most recently the 11. With the rerouting of the 11 to Sandyford Business District during Network Direct, this terminus is no longer used, but the 47 and 75 still serve the Lower Kilmacud Road.
The 62 operated from the City Centre to here via Ranelagh, Clonskeagh and Goatstown, and ceased in 1999 when it was merged with the 11.
D 279 entered service in 1969 and was withdrawn in 1985. 17/02/1983
This week we are going back to 1988 and to D 720 on Aston Quay with a 79 to Ballyfermot.Route 79 to Ballyfermot began in 1949. The original terminus was on Kylemore Road before being extended to Cherry Orchard Avenue in 1985. In the early 1990s it was then extended to Spiddal Park where it still terminates today. The early 2000s saw it share a lot of its routing with the 79A which operates to Parkwest.
D 720 was delivered new to Limerick in 1975. It moved to Dublin in 1986 and operated out of Conyngham Road Garage until 1993, when it was withdrawn. It was sold for scrap in 1994.
11/11/1988
I set up this account to upload photos from our trip to Australia 9 years ago, a trip for my 40th birthday! It is oddly reassuring to see that my hair was thinning even then!!!this was taken the day before my birthday. A week after we returned we left London for good.
I wonder where we'll be for my 50th?
To mark the end of the year we are going back 29 years to 1991. KD 348 is seen on Parnell Square dressed for route 40A to Cappagh Hospital. Route 40A started running to Finglas in 1932, seven years after route 40 started. The 40A terminus was on Cappagh Road, whereas the 40 terminated on Plunkett Road. Up until the early-2000s a number of departures on the 40A were extended to / from Cappagh Hospital. In 2011 the 40A was taken off the bus network when it was merged with the 40 and 78A to become the new cross-city route 40.
The bus is in an all-over ad for Telecom Eireann Callcards. I am sure for a certain generation of people these must seem like a very arcane item, whereas other people may recall them with great fondness. Introduced in the late 1980s the cards were a way for people to make calls on public phones without having to carry a lot of loose change around with them. In some ways they served as the prototype to phone credit that people use on their mobile phones nowadays. The cards were very popular during the 1990s, and even became collectible items with their varied designs and denominations. However, with the arrival of the mobile phones in the late 1990s, the cards along with public pay-phones became a thing of the past. Telecom Eireann also became a thing of the past in 1999 when it was privatised and first rebranded as Eircom, and later as Eir.
KD 348 was one of 366 double-deckers delivered to CIE in the 1980s by Bombardier. It was delivered new in 1983 and was withdrawn around 1999. 31/12/1991
Hallowe'en 1998 and it is raining at Dublin Heuston Station. KD 240 is with a 91 to the City Centre. This route ran on an adhoc basis, providing extra capacity to the 90 but not going all the way to Dublin Connolly. KD 240 was based at Conyngham Road and was delivered new between 1982/83.
One thing to note in this photo is the ticket machine beside the bus. Free standing ticket machines were, and still are, rare for Dublin Bus. The other notable location that had a ticket machine was Dublin Airport, and there is still one there today. The one in Heuston is no longer there, with most people using Leap cards nowadays. However back in 1998 the vast majority of users were paying cash to the driver. These machines that allowed you to buy a ticket before boarding the bus were a curiosity of their time.
31/10/1998
Slightly different Throwback Thursday this week as we are commemorating the end of a route. On Friday 11th November 2016 the 8 will run for the final time as part of changes to bus routes in the Dun Laoghaire. This is not the first time Dublin Bus has tried to get rid of the 8. An attempt was made in 2001 but thanks to a successful European Court case it returned in 2005. But this time in 2016 it will be the last run of the 8. The 8 also holds the distinction of being the last tram route to run in Dublin, back in 1949
RH 45 is seen at the Eden Quay terminus of the route 24 years ago. The bus is in an all-over ad for the First National Building Society. 22/11/1992
This week we are going twenty-five years to RH 130 at the terminus of route 13A on Kildare Street. The first 13A started around 1977, and ran from Ballymun to Beechwood Avenue. In 1980 it moved terminus to Poppintree, and the route ceased around 1983/1984. It returned to the network in 1994, running between Poppintree and Kildare Street. In 1997 it moved its southern terminus to Merrion Square. In 2004 it moved its northern terminus to Harristown, and in 2009 it started serving Ikea (near Ballymun). The route ceased in October 2011, as part of the changes brought in under Network Direct.
RH 130 was delivered new to Dublin Bus in 1992. In 2006 it lost part of its roof and joined the Dublin Bus tour fleet. It was withdrawn in 2014 and sold for scrap. During its career it was one of the few RH Class members to receive CitySwift livery.
21/09/1996
It is 1982 and D 122 is seen on Hawkins Street. The bus had only a short time left in service in Dublin. It had been delivered new to CIE in October 1967 and withdrawn in December 1982 after fifteen years in service. Hawkins House on the right was only five years older than the bus, but in 2018 it is not planned to have a much longer future.
Interestingly the destinations shown on the front of the bus are all in Irish. From top to bottom they are "Ranelagh", "Clonskeagh" and "City Centre".
35 years after this photograph was taken, trams returned to Hawkins Street and it is still a busy route for buses.
Hawkins Street, 29/11/1982
Originally Taken: May 12, 2011
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Camera: Nikon D80
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So, it seems Throwback Thursday totally slipped my mind this month and now I'm scrambling at the very last minute to get one done!
This was taken back when my neighbour and I were walking up to the coffee shop on each nice day we were both available, this was just me fooling around with the camera while she was inside the store getting a refill. Our walks together have been further and further apart since her little one arrived and she's gone back to work, so I thought that in every sense, this really suited the Throwback Thursday theme!
Hope all is well!
This week we are going back twelve years to 2013 and to AV 359 in Rialto, with a service on route 68A to Bulfin Road.
The original route 68A was in operation between 1994 and 1997, and ran between the city centre and Cherrywood in Clondalkin. The current route 68A, as seen here, started in 2011, running between the city centre and Bulfin Road going via the South Circular Road. It was designed to provide capacity on route 68 in the peaks between those two locations, following the end of route 19 under Network Direct. Currently in 2025 there are two departures from Bulfin Road during the weekday morning, and three departures from Hawkins Street during the weekday evening.
AV 359 was new to Dublin Bus in 2003. It was withdrawn in 2018 and was later sold on.
21/02/2013
It is the first day of August 1999 and the 47B, along with the 47 and 47A, has only 6 weeks of existence left. RH 91 is seen at the terminus on Grange Road which the route shared with the 16. The 47 group of routes connected the City Centre with Whitechurch, Tibradden and Rockbrook, though not necessarily the most direct way. The 47B for example served Leinster Road and Zion Road in Rathmines and Rathgar. Eventually the routes were replaced by the 15C, 116 and 161 in the suburbs, though the 47 number did reappear in the early 2000s on a very different routing. The final day of the 47/A/B was the 11th September 1999. The 16 was also subsequently extended from this terminus along Grange Road to Kingtston in Ballinteer.
RH 91 was delivered new to Dublin Bus, appropriately, in 1991. It was withdrawn in 2006 and is currently preserved, in the livery as seen here, although the orange line above the top deck is complete.
The ad on the side of the bus by Aer Rianta states 'The spirit of Duty Free lives on". This was the first day of no Duty Free across the European Union, it having ended at midnight on the 30th June 1999. The concept of Duty Free had begun in Shannon Airport in 1947, and spread across the world. Its abolition was expected to lead to increased travel costs...
Grange Road 01/08/1999
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"We met at the wrong time. That's what I keep telling myself, anyway. Maybe one day years from now, we'll meet in a coffee shop in a faraway city somewhere, and we could give it another shot."
It is 1987 and KD 351 is seen between duties at Phibsborough Garage. The livery on the bus is worth noting. Four months earlier saw the creation of Dublin Bus, who based their livery on the two-tone green CIE used on the Bombardiers, but added the orange line. Therefore KD 351 is in Dublin Bus livery, but with the CIE logo being used instead of the Dublin Bus logo. In some ways this bus is wearing a transitional livery.
KD 351 was delivered new to CIE and Phibsborough Garage in 1983 and survived in service until the late 1990s.
The location of Phibsborough Garage is interesting, In the background can be seen the former railway terminus of Broadstone. When the railway line shut it was taken over by CIE provincial services which became Bus Eireann in 1987. The Dublin city services had a garage beside Broadstone which was called Phibsborough Garage, which transferred to Dublin Bus. In the early 2000s Dublin Bus took over part of Broadstone, creating a new garage called Broadstone. Basically, three garages operated by two bus operators on one site that was formerly a railway station and yard. 20/06/1987
It is April 1985 and KD 5 is seen on Marlborough Street (not Abbey Street as on the caption) in Dublin. It is seen after arriving with a working on the 31 from Howth. This route can trace its origins back to the Great Northern Railway (Ireland) and was absorbed into CIE Dublin bus network in 1958. It follows the railway line from Dublin to Howth through villages such as Raheny and Sutton. However in recent times, unlike the railway, it continues through Howth Village and terminate at Howth Summit. As a result, this is a very popular bus route with visitors.
KD 5 was delivered new to CIE in 1981. It survived in service with Dublin Bus to the mid-1990s, spending all its life at Clontarf Garage.
The block of buildings beside the bus are no longer standing on Marlborough Street having been demolished in the early-2000s. The road beneath the bus became the Luas tram line in 2017. 11/04/1985
This week we are going back twenty-three years to 1999 and RA 226 on Middle Abbey Street. The bus is dressed for route 67A , which started running between the city centre and Maynooth (via Celbridge) around 1988. It ceased in 2010 when the regular 67 was itself extended to Maynooth from Celbridge.
The bus is branded for the "25A Lucan Road Flyer". Certain routes in the city, mostly CitySwift routes, received this type of branding in the late-1990s. It was mostly an attempt to relaunch the CitySwift brand. Part of this including branding some buses, like this one, with Super CitySwift also.
RA 226 was delivered new to Dublin Bus in 1995. It was withdrawn in 2007 and sold on to an operator in the United Kingdom. 22/06/1999
This week we are going back forty-one years to 1985, and to KD 366 on Eden Quay with a service on route 7A to Sallynoggin.
KD 366 was the bus that was never meant to be. When CIE ordered the double-deckers from Bombardier, it was meant to be a fleet of 365 buses. However, KD 111 was written-off in an accident in 1982, and thus an extra bus was ordered to replace it. KD 366 was delivered new to CIE in 1983. In 1990 it became the first Wedding Bus in the fleet, with the new white livery being tested on it before being applied to some of the new Leyland Olympians being that year. It was withdrawn by Dublin Bus around 1999.
Route 7A started operating between the city centre and Sallynoggin, via Blackrock, in 1950. In 1988 it was extended to Mackintosh Park, and the route ceased to operate in 2011. The route number returned in 2016 for services between the city centre and Loughlinstown.
22/01/1985
It is 1983 and KD 313 is at the northern extreme of the Dublin City Services network.At the time the bus was brand new, having been delivered to Summerhill Garage during 1983.
It is seen at the terminus of tne 33 in Balbriggan. This town in north County Dublin was the furthest north the buses of Dubiln City Services went. It is also still the furthest north Dublin Bus go, and by the end of the year the furthest north Go-Ahead will serve. The bus stop here is shared with the bus route between Drogheda and Dublin,providing a connection between the two services.
In 1983 the 33 terminus was outside the Bank of Ireland as seen here. Within a few years the bus terminated on the other side of the road. By the late-1990s/early-2000s the terminus had relocated further south along this road, outside Balbriggan Church where it still terminates today.
The Bank of Ireland is still in this location but has been completely rebuilt in the intervening years. 14/08/1983
This week we are going back eleven years to VG 21 at UCD Belfield with a service on route 39B. The 39B has had two existences. The first version ran for a decade, ending around 1993 when the CitySwift operation began on route 39. This original 39B operated between the city centre and (at various times) Clonsilla, Sheepmoor and Coolmine. The route was resurrected in 2001. Initially operating between Inglewood and UCD Belfield in the peaks, its western terminus moved to Clonsilla in 2003 and Ongar in 2004. There it remained util the route ceased again in October 2010 under Network Direct, though a lot of it was covered by new route 39A.
VG 21 was delivered new to Dublin Bus in 2008 and is still in service today. There is one noticeable aspect to it though. Previously, all buses delivered to Dublin Bus had their fleet number reflected in the last three digits of the registration plate. Dublin Bus used to block book sequences when they were registering new buses so this feature would occur, and it was certainly an handy way for bus enthusiasts to identify buses too. However, a premium had to be paid for this option with the registration authority and during the financial crisis Dublin Bus had to make savings. This was an easy one to make, so VG 20 was the last bus delivered where the registration matched the fleet number, and VG 21 was the first one to arrive with a general registration plate.
Finally, back in 2010 this part of UCD Belfield was only used by the peak-hour Xpresso bus routes but today it is the main bus terminus on the college campus, and used by the vast majority of bus routes that serve there.
21/10/2010
This week we are going back seventeen years to 2008, and to VT 13 on O'Connell Street with a service on route 46A to Dun Laoghaoire.
Route 46A started running between the city centre and Cabinteely in 1926. Certain departures were extended to Dun Laoghaire in 1929. In 1932 the primary destination was moved to Goatstown, and in 1936 it was extended to Dun Laoghaire full time. In 1999 the Stillorgan QBC opened, with the 46A becoming a high-frequency route. In 2010 it replaced route 10 on the northside when it was extended to the Phoenix Park via the North Circular Road under Network Direct. That change also saw all services on route 46A taken out of Stillorgan village, which this bus is going via. The route ceased to operate in January 2025 when it was partially replaced by route E2 under Bus Connects on the southside, and route 11 on the northside.
VT 13 was new to Dublin Bus in 2005, being one of twenty tri-axle double-deckers delivered that year. In 2007 Dublin Bus received fifty more. It was withdrawn in 2018 and sold on to an operator in the United Kingdom. The bus had just been repainted prior to this picture being taken, and unusually emerged with yellow above the front window and not black. Another member of the class also received this treatement, but it did not last long and both did eventually receive black paint there.
06/03/2008
This week we go back thirty-three years to 1988 and D 785 on O'Connell Street. The bus is in an all-over ad for Denny food that is celebrating Dublin's 1000th birthday. It received this late in 1987, or early 1988, and was the first Dublin Bus all over ad. Though not the first all over ad bus in Dublin, but all other previous examples had been in CIE days. In 1989 the ad was modified with the messaging changed to mark 160 years of Denny. In late 1990 the bus was repainted back into standard Dublin Bus livery.
D 785 was delivered new to CIE in 1976 and operated out of Donnybrook Garage. Around 1991 it moved to Ringsend Garage where it went on to be the last D Class to operate there. Its last trip in service was on route 15B on the 22nd April 1995.
Route 11 started in 1939 running between Ballymun Road and Clonskea. Over the years it was extended to Wadelai Park on the northside and Kilmacud on the southside. Under Network Direct in 2011 the southern terminus was relocated to Sandyford Business District.
The bus is stopped outside the BHS department store, though nowadays it is home to Pennys. Easons in the background is still there in 2021.
29/01/1988
Travelling back 21 years this week to 1996. KD 114 is parked on Marlborough Street between duties on the 28. This route operated between Edenmore and Dublin City Centre and when this photo was taken the route only had two months left in its existence. It was replaced by the 42A, before it itself was replaced by the 27A in 2011. When the bus finished its passenger carrying career it went on to become a driver trainer. In January 2001 it took part in the special runs to mark the end of Bombardier buses in Dublin. The location in the photograph is in the process of becoming a stop on the Luas Cross City line. Marlborough Street, 04/05/1996
July 1989 is much more grey than July 2018, but the former is probably a more typical Irish summer than the latter. D 822 does brighten things up a bit. It is seen passing the Bank of Ireland and Trinity College in College Green as it operates a 13 to Palmerston Park from Ballymun. The route commenced to Ballymun in the late 1970s, extended to Palmerston Park in the 1980s, and lasted until 2011. Under Network Direct the route was merged with the 51s and became a cross-city route from Ballymun to Grange Castle via Drumcondra, Inchicore and Clondalkin. The route now travels down Dame Street from College Green rather than Grafton Street as in this photo.
The bus is in an all-over ad for the The Irish Cancer Society. The bus is promoting their support services.
D 822 entered service in 1976 and was withdrawn in 1994 when it was sold for scrap. 27/07/1989
It is 1992 and RH 64 is seen parked between duties on Marlborough Street. The bus had been delivered new to Dublin Bus in 1991 and entered service at Clontarf Garage. It is in an all-over ad for Harp Lager. It is worth noting that at this point in time these ads were hand-painted onto the buses. This is unlike the situation in 2018 where ads are applied on vinyl wraps. In some ways these buses were mobile works of art. As a result the ads lasted longer on the buses than they do now. This one had a lifespan of about a year and was also applied to buses from other garages.
The 32B was part of the 32 group of routes that served Baldoyle/Portmarnock/Malahide. The 32B ran to Abbey Park in Baldoyle. This routing was later absorbed into the 32 services to Portmarnock. Network Direct removed Abbey Park (and the 32B) from the Dublin Bus network in November 2012, with just the 32 surviving and terminating at Malahide. Residents in Abbey Park had to walk to the main road to get a new extended 29A.
This layover on Marlborough Street became the Marlborough tram stop on the Luas Green Line in December 2017.
30/05/1992
Definitely one from the archives, it's been a awhile since the Ferrari Challenge, but I felt it was fitting seeing that I'll be going to Limerock tomorrow.
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A trip back ten years this week to 2009. RV 553 is seen heading north on O'Connell Street with a 140 to St. Margaret's Road. This route was one of a number of routes created in the early 2000s to cope with the expansion of Dublin due to the Celtic Tiger. The routes themselves, such as the 4, 128 and 140, more accurately started towards the end of the Celtic Tiger and the start of the economic crisis. The 140 commenced in 2008 connecting Wilton Terrace with Finglas, being a more direct route than the traditional 40. In late 2009 it was extended to Ikea near Ballymun and then in 2011 it was extended south to Rathmines as part of Network Direct. It replaced the 128 on the southside making the 128 a short-lived route of only 4 years. At one point consideration was given to merge the 140 with the 54A instead, which would have extended it beyond Tallaght to Kiltipper.
RV 553 was delivered new to Dublin Bus in 1999. When this picture was taken it was based in Harristown Garage but was subsequently transferred to Summerhill. It was withdrawn in 2012. 06/01/2009
It is 1999 and a decade, century and a millennium is coming towards an end. And so is a bus livery. RV 326 is seen parked on Burgh Quay between duties on the 14A. It and RV 327 were the last buses delivered new in the two-tone green livery of Dublin Bus in 1997. This livery was introduced in 1987 and started to be replaced in the mid-1990s with a new cream/blue "core" livery. The VLs were the first buses delivered in a new, and unique, standard livery in 1997 ( but not the final one that was chosen). RV 326 was one of five new buses allocated to the 14A when delivered. RV 327 as mentioned was in two-tone green, RV 328 and RV 329 were in Wedding Bus livery and RV 330 was in Coastal Tours livery.
RV 326 also has the distinction of being the first RV delivered to Dublin Bus, and thus the first Volvo Olympian. The last one to be delivered was RV 640. Being the first, RV 326 received marker-lights above the upper-deck windscreen, something the rest of the 1997 deliveries did not get.
The 14A was a variation of the 14, and connected the City Centre with Ballinteer via Dartry while the 14 served Rathgar. Under Network Direct the 14A was absorbed into the 14, the Dartry routing was dropped, buses went via Ballinteer to Dundrum and was extended on the northside to Ardlea Road.
Finally, the bus is parked beside the building of the Irish Press which was a newspaper published between 1931 and 1995. Burgh Quay, 18/07/1999
This week we are going back twenty years to 1996. KD 160 is seen at Heuston Station. Although the front of the bus shows "Ballyfermot" the side number probably shows its true intent. Route 91 ran as required between the City Centre and Heuston, working inbound via Dame Street. It was designed to provide extra capacity on route 90 when required. With the extension of the 145 to Heuston a few years ago, route 91 silently faded away and no longer runs. Visible through the front door is the old magnetic strip ticket validator. These too are also now gone, replaced by tag-on machines. 18/08/1996