Irma Allen

IRMA BERYL WOOLLEY (nee Allen)
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Born Irma Beryl Allen second daughter of Lulu Dagma (nee Jarvis) & Thomas Armstrong Allen. Irma was born 1903 at Southern Cross Western Australia. Irma’s parents are recorded in 1903 Western Australian electoral roles as being at Fraser’s lease Coolgardie (Southern Cross) and her father Thomas was recorded as being an engine-driver and her mother Lulu was recorded as home duties.
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After I have talked to different cousins over the past months the story of Irma Beryl Allen has slowly emerged that reflects light onto a very gracious lady who could do anything she put her hands to. This is what has been shared about the Allen’s in the main. If something needed to be done the Allen’s just got on and made it or mended it. Cousin Faye shared that all the Allen’s could draw very well. Cousin Allen spoke of his grandmother, Irma in very loving tones indeed.
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In 1907 we know Irma and her family were in Queensland, Australia visiting Thomas Allen’s family who were on the Goldfields at Maryborough at that time. We know this only because Irma’s mother Lulu had a child there, Doris Allen born 22nd February but she also died there on the 15th December that same year. It was cousin Kay who has research the Allen family extensively and who has many amazing stories about Irma’s grandparent’s family history in Queensland, Australia. It was also cousin Kay who solved this family mystery about where Doris was.
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Irma’s growing up in the Goldfields…
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The story below shows Irma and her older sister, Vera, supporting their local community with these efforts to raise money being reported in the states newspaper of the day. The electoral roles record Irma’s parents in 1910 as being in the area of Malcolm, Coolgardie, (Mount Leonora) and her father was then recorded as being an amalgamator and her mother; Lulu was recorded as home duties. Irma was now the second child of 4 living children and her mother was again pregnant.
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The job of amalgamator in the gold industry that Thomas Allen is recorded as being employed in during 1910 requires working with mercury in the process of the extraction of the fine gold particles being united and then separated from the rock and soil.
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The newspaper story below was set in the gold mining town of Malcolm in remote Western Australia Goldfields.
Wikipedia states that Malcolm is now an abandoned gold mining town located between Leonora and Laverton in the Goldfields-Esperance region of Western Australia. The discovery of gold there in 1895 caused the mining community that grew up around those mine sites to lobby the government of the day to create a town. The town site of Malcolm was one square mile in total area and was at the center of the Mount Margaret Goldfields, which was to play a major part in the history of Irma’s and my families early years here in Western Australia.
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The town of Malcolm by the time young Irma, her friends and older sister were fund raising there it had over 200 buildings and a population of 400 was recorded in 1904 with six hotels and a brewery.
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For a map of the region and further information check out this web site…
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm,_Western_Australia
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The West Australian
(Perth, WA : 1879-1954)
Saturday 8 May 1915 page 7
BELGIAN RELIEF FUND.
On Saturday evening, April 24, the children of Malcolm held a bazaar in aid of the above fund. The bazaar was inaugurated by the Misses Irma Allen and Clara Esmonde, assisted by Mrs. W. Kemp and the ladies and children generally. The attendance was exceptionally good, considering the limited population, and the result far exceeded expections. The following conducted stalls with results shown: - Toys--Misses Dolly Mills and Craddle Hall, ES s:.; dolls-Mises Irma Allen and Clara Esmonde. £9 17s. refreshments-Misses Vera Allen and Mollie Esmonde, £ as. Od.. penny die Misses Gladys Devine and Amy Ritchie. 9s. 7d.: proceeds of a sovereign nrm?tnrl hv Vrs W. J Devine, £4 15s.: donation from Mr. D. Evans, £1 Is. Much credit is due to Mr. A.E. Werthel mer for the energetic manner in which he worked in connection with the art nsaion draw. ings and sales.
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Big move to Perth city for Irma…
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In 1916 Irma earns a scholarship to attend the Methodist Ladies Collage in the main city of the state of Western Australia, Perth, which had only been settled by the British at the Swan River Colony in 1829. This settlement was a very long way away from the Goldfield's and still very undeveloped and isolated from the rest of the world.
Irma was 13 when she earned the scholarship in Leonora. Allen Duggan, Irma’s grandson, has told me that Irma was a very talented writer, drawer and wrote poetry
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Western Argus
Kalgoorlie, WA : 1916-1938)
Tuesday 26 December 1916 page 12
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LEONORA Dec. 12. The exhibition and sale of work held by the children of the Leonora Public School this week realised a nett profit for the Patriotic Fund of £60. This school, under Mr. Moore, has put up a good year's work, securing in the recent examination for the sixth standard class, seven qualifying passes from seven candidates. Four children sat for the 'recent scholarship examination, and two won scholarships, namely, W. Boyd and Irma Allen; and one, R. Gurr, 11 1/2 years of age, secured admission to the Goldfields High School. For sewing, under Misses Whitford and Edwards, the school won highest marks gained since its inception. Evidence of the teachers' work and the children's cleverness was apparent in the articles disposed of at the sale. The Gwalia School, under- Mr. Perritt, secured nine qualifying passes from 12 pupils who were examined. This school has been im- proved with an additional class room. With its fine manual room and carpenter's benches, for boys, and its continuation classes and appointments, it has been brought well up-to-date. On the suggestion of the secretary of the School Board. coolers will be placed in the schools, in which the children may store their lunch. Parents must appreciate the close attention given to the care of the children by the efficient staffs working both these schools.
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When Irma earned her scholarship in 1916 her family was recorded as living in the Kalgoorlie and Mount Leonora region and Thomas was again employed as an engine driver and Lulu as home duties. By this time also Irma’s family had grown to 8 living children.
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The next time we find information about Irma she is attending the Methodist Ladies’ College in Perth City and these reports in both the 1917-18 Western Australian Newspaper School News reports opens a very small window into Irma’s flourishing capacities as an all round student with swimming, drawing and writing skills being mentioned.
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The West Australian
(Perth, WA : 1879-1954)
Tuesday 25 December 1917 page 7
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SCHOOL SPEECH DAYS. METHODIST LADIES' COLLEGE. PRINCIPALS ANNUAL REPORT.
….Form III: Irma Allen. Mrs. Graham, commenting, says: "The essays on the whole are very creditable, the subject matter interesting, and in many. cases original; the English clear and concise. In Form III the prize essay-that of Irma Allen -is of a very high merit, and gives promise of very fine work as the writer develops." …
……Irma Allen. Drawing…
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The Western Mail
(Perth, WA : 1885-1954)
Friday 27 December 1918 page 37
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METHODIST LADIES' COLLEGE.
This month our swimming mistress, Miss Winifred Abel, presented 12 candidates for various examinations of the Royal Life Saving Society, and all were successful. Eve- lyn Purdie and Constance Braddock gained the bronze medallion; Beryl de Bernales, Mavis Rhodes, and Maisie Cavalier passed the profi- ciency examination; and Marjorie Hunkin, Enid Todd, Daphne de Bernales, Irma Allen, Doris Erickson, Betty de Bernales, Kathleen James passed the elementary examination.
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The only other records showing what was happening around Irma and her family over those few years was that her mother, Lulu had given birth to two more children. We have to remember in those days here in Australia there was no way a women could prevent herself from falling pregnant and it was very common practice for very large families to flourish. The pattern was that either the mother would die giving birth to one of her children and the father having to find another wife to look after the youngsters and continuing the growth of his family. Irma’s grandfather, Henry Martin Jarvis had a total of 15 children because of that reason. Another common pattern was the father would die and the women and the older children were forced out to work to earn a living. It was also very common for a high level of child immortality in a lot of these large families.
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There was great potential bubbling up from within this young family, which was growing and maturing in a very isolated community. Irma’s mother, Lulu had only lost one of Irma’s siblings in her marriage to Irma’s father, Thomas Allen at this stage and Irma had very healthy brothers and sisters growing up alongside of her.
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This young emerging family had no idea what was in store for them only 8 months into 1919. All that new found potentials that Irma had only just experienced by leaving the isolated Goldfield's district and moving to Perth city (also a strong possibility Irma was boarding at the Methodist Ladies’ College over those two years). All these great advancements in Irma's life were all about to be ripped out of her hands.
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Spanish Influenza pandemic 1919…
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8-8-1919 Irma’s one year old brother, Royce Allen died from the Spanish Influenza pandemic that had travelled to Western Australia with the return of the service men and women from the 1st World War (1914-1918).
Irma’s mother, brothers and sisters were all down staying at 13 Hawkestone street, Cottesloe, Western Australia when this tragedy engulfed their family. The family story was that Irma and the children all came down during the school holidays and stayed in Cottesloe. This would make a lot of sense when you place Irma boarding at the Collage in the City.
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Irma’s father, Thomas Armstrong Allen who would remain behind to continue to earn a living would have came down from Coolgardie to attend his youngest child’s funeral at Fremantle Cemetery.
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After he returned to the Goldfields he also died of the Spanish Influenza 13 days later (21-8-1919).
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The West Australian (Perth, WA : 1879-1954) Saturday 23 August 1919 PAGE 1

DFATHIS. ALLEN.--On August 21 at Coolgardie. Thomas Allen, beloved husband of Lulu Allen, of 13 Hawkestone street, Cottesloe, and father of Irma, Errol. Norman, Harry. Kenneth, Kevin, Harley Monica and Mrs. Fred Dixon. and father in law of Fred Dixon; aged 41 years.
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We can only imagine what these two deaths did to all the members of this family. So much potential so many opportunities which were slowly emerging within each of them to then have it all snatched away and shattered within a couple of weeks.
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In those days there were no Government support systems for widows or young families in melt down. I remember my grandmothers, Audrey Monica Allen, spoke of this time frame when she was in her 60’s. At that time of her brothers and fathers death, Monica (who was only 5 years old) spoke of being sent away to stay with relatives back in Leonora as the older children had to get jobs.
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I know from what I saw of my grandmother’s life that she never really recovered from this trauma. Monica also believed that it was her fault that her young brother and father had died as she had been playing with a neighbours child that got the Influenza. Monica told me this herself when she was about 65 years of age. Even though I tried to tell her this was not her fault she had been carrying that guilt all those years. It was going to take a lot of counseling to take that trauma away but she never did and eventually carried that false belief into her grave when she passed away 1 week before her 91st birthday 2005.
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You can only guess that the deaths of Irma’s brother and father saw the end to her Private educational pursuits. Even though she had won scholarships to attend the Methodist Ladies College Irma would have been 16 and I would image had to go out to work to assist in bringing an income into the family and to help look after her younger siblings.
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Vera Allen, Irma’s older sister had only recently got married and the birth of her child, Shirley Dixon was immanent. This left Irma as the eldest child living in the family home. Her younger siblings where Errol 14, Norman 10, Harry 8, Kenneth 6, Monica 5, Kevin 4, Gordon 2.
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If this was not already an extraordinary hard set of cards being dished up to this young family Irma’s older sister, Vera’s marriage was then showing the first signs of instability. The newspaper reports in the Western Australian at that time reflect how this new family was very quickly disintegrating. These articles have been reproduced in the chapter on Vera Allen.
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Other than what I have written here I have no idea of what happened in the life and struggles of that time for my uncles and aunts and grandmother and great grandmother. I can only imagine the amount of determination and strength of character that was needed to be able to pass the tests being served up to each one of them.
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Marriage of Irma to
Mr John Edward Peters Woolley…
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The next chapter of Irma’s life unfolds when she marries Mr John Edward Peters Woolley. Mr John Edward Peters Woolley and Irma were married in Fremantle Western Australia in 1921. Irma was 18 years old then and John was 23 years of age.
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While I was collecting all the facts to be able to write this chapter about my great aunt, Irma Woolley I became aware that there was something that just would not sit right about John Edward Peters Woolley’s details.
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It was only after I typed in his first names and left his family name out on the Western Australian history Births, Deaths & Marriages (BDM) web site that I saw for the first time the name Gane. Never heard that name before in my life let alone questioned that Woolley was not John Edward Peters correct family name.
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After tracking many different sets of combinations of details found on the Western Australian BDM site it became clear that our John Edward Peters was born out of marriage to a close relative of his aunt who was a Russell before marriage and so was Johns mother’s mother recorded as a Russell.
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After both myself and cousin Kay tracking many different combinations of family connections between John's recorded mothers name and other Gane and Russell families recorded in all the systems available to us we can not find any other records of the name of John's mother’s mother Emma Grace Russell.
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Until I find a member of the Gane or Russell family who may be able to shine some light onto this story we will never know who or where she came from. At present all that we can surmise is that the Emily Amelia Russell who had been married the year before to Martha Aleuina father is the mother or may not be...we may never know what or how or why the different names.
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Marriage of GANE SAMUEL JAMES to RUSSELL EMILY AMELIA…
PERTH 4503 1878
Birth record of GANE MARTHA ALEUINA…father is SAMUEL GANE and mother is recorded as RUSSELL EMMA GRACE PERTH 19872 1879
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But, he, Samuel Gane married the year before Emily Amelia Russell
Then SAMUEL JAMES GANE who had married EMILY AMELIA RUSSELL the year before Martha Aleuina Gane were to go onto to have 7 children from 1881 to 1896.
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The birth of JOHN EDWARD PETERS GANE in FREMANTLE no 1695, 1898 and he then is in the records as living with an aunt by the maiden name of Eliza Ann Russell who marries WILLIAM WOOLLEY PERTH no 5589, 1883.
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Here is the irony of this story so far. When I first went through John Edward Peters Woolley army records on line I totally missed that his real birth name was there. It was only after I had tracked down all the above details that it only became clear when I was rechecking his on line war records that I then saw the name Gane. It was on there all along. This means that John knew his real birth name was not a Woolley but we have no idea if he knew who his mother was or for that matter who his father was.
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Moral standards controlled by community…
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What I must speak here about is when we look back at these times when John Gane’s mother was pregnant with John at the turn of the century, if a woman was unmarried and Catholic that was like committing the worse crime possible and the rest of your community would shut you out and condemn your child. In that time in the evolution of humanity and social structures all moral control was carried and directed by the religious orders in the position of power at any given time.

Were as since the 1960 in western countries until today, 2011, moral standards have been claimed and owned by the individual not any group.
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Back in my grandmothers and great grandmothers life times, here in Australia, all communities were small and everyone knew everyone else’s business. The group kept moral standards in the open and public communities so tightly controlled that women could be so bullied that death would be a far better choice than to face that public shaming and isolation. In Australia in those days you had to be a part of a community just to survive physically.
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The stories I have heard over my lifetime of how the hospitals were staffed mainly by Catholic nuns, back in the 1800’s through to 1960's in Australia. The nuns who attended any woman who had had a miscarriage or near miscarriage as a possible illegal abortion and the police would be notified.
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Tthe stories I have heard regarding some of these investigations of the women may not have happened as much as I have been told but you can be sure the women believed this and the amount of fear and shame they would be carrying if they were to become a candidate to questioned.
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Please remember here these woman have just gone through all sorts of emotional experiences of loosing a child or nearly loosing one and they are being brought up to account for this and questioned.
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The stigma of being conceived out of wedlock even if the couple did eventually marry was also a massive spiritual blight on the child’s character and people would gossip and backbite of this about the individual behind their backs forever more. This effected where that individual could get employment who they could speak to let alone who they could marry themselves later on in life.
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John Edward Peters Gane (Woolley)
1st World War records…
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John Edwards Peters Woolley born in 1898 took himself off to the First World War as a young 18 year old in 1917. The servicemen’s records on the Australian National Achieves web site have great information about your ancestors that you cannot get anywhere else.
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John Edward Peters Woolley army records state he belonged to the Unit 20/28 his number was 6824 and he joined 31.5.1917. He records his trade as blacksmith and had apprenticed at the State Impliment Works for 2 1/2 years. John served with the 35th Engineers for 2 months and 56 days at Blackboy Hill and was recalled to Engineers.
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Eliza Woolley, aunt, was recorded as John’s next of kin and address was Bond Street, North Fremantle, Western Australia and that both his parents were deceased. John was described as 18 years old and 10 months as of 30.5.1917. He was 5 foot and 6 inches tall and weighed 119lbs, with blue eyes and brown hair.
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Complexion was described as fair and John’s religion was Church of England.
A full description of where and what he was exposed to while serving in the army can be found at this link… www.awm.gov.au/units/unit_11215.asp
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John Edward Peters Woolley medals were; 1914-1915 Star, British War Medal and Victory Medal.

The link I have copied below has all the 30 pages of data recorded of the affairs of John Woolley’s time while serving during the First World War. What is wonderful are all the records of our ancestors held in these achieve. You can find out so much about them through these pages. What I personally like the most is the actual hand writing examples of theirs. Hidden within their signatures are many amazing insights into their characters.
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www.naa.gov.au/
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When you open this page go to the top right hand corner and double click on the “name search” words
The next page that will open will ask for a family name. Type in the whole name of John Edward Peters Woolley
In the box below that, which asks you to select a category, select “all records” from the list.
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Pay no attention to the warning that appears at top of that page, just go and double click on the grey box with the word SEARCH written on it. This then will bring you to a cover page with details of John’s records. Go to the top right hand of that page and you will see some blue writing and a little pile of drawn papers; double click on these and the photographs of each page will appear click on the number system shown on the top and bottom of these pages and it will scroll through each one.
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If you want to type in any other person you know served in any of the wars just do the same process but you should be aware that not all are open as yet and you will need to pay a small fee to get them to do that; all clearly described in the site.
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Irma and John Woolley
first child born 1921…
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Carmen Irma Woolley was born at Perth Western Australia 1921. The collection of images from my mother and grandmother photographic collection show a few of Carmen as a tall and spindly young lady.
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What difficulties Irma’s first family being so dependent on her with her father deceased and her needed to help raise her younger siblings which at this time in 1921 their ages would have been Vera 20, her baby Shirley 2, Errol 16, Norman 12, Harry 10, Kennith 8, Monica 7, Kevin 6, and Gordon 4 years old.
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We know from newspaper articles published at that time Vera’s marriage was shattering apart. Vera and her 2-year-old baby were living with Lulu and her siblings and from the postal addresses in the online post office web site Irma and John Edward Peters Woolley, plus their brand new baby were now also sharing the one same home at Battle street Cottesloe Beach western Australia.
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These were hard times and everyone had to make all sorts of sacrifices. Finding accommodation for young families with young children was even harder over those years.
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What trauma and struggles the years John Woolley served in the army during the 1st World War added to this young emerging family that Irma and John had set out to create can only be imagined. It will not come as a surprise that Irma and John’s marriage also fell apart somewhere after the birth of their second child; Thyra Pauline.
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Second child Thyra Pauline Woolley
born 1924…
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Thrya Pauline Woolley was born in 1924 at Perth, WA, Australia. My mother recalls Thyra spent a lot of time at Lulu's, her grandmothers house in Applecross Western Australia from around when she was born in 1935.
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The only address I could find for all of the girls for that year was shown in the records as; Woolley Miss I, tea rooms Perth-Fre road, this was recored in the canning Bridge section of that year but not there the following year. The addresses I did find for 1936 was for a Mrs Lee M A, 12 Dalgety st, Cottesloe. and for a Miss Woolley I, 1 Duncraig rd, Applercross.

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John Edward Peters Woolley’s death details…
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John Edward Peter Woolley died on 19-4-1933 at North Freemantle, Western Australia and was buried a few days later at the Freemantle Cemetery, Western Australia. The newspaper death notices best sum up Johns passing.
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WOOLLEY. — The Friends of Mr. and Mrs. W. Woolley of 14 Bond-street, North Fremantle, are respectfully informed that the remains of their late dearly beloved son, Private John Edward Peter Woolley, No. 6824, 28th Battalion, A.I.F., fond father of Carmen and Thyra, loving brother of Ethel (Mrs. Bishop, North Fremantle) and Alice (Mrs. Besson, Beaconsfield), will be Interred in the Anglican Cemetery, Fremantle. The Funeral is appointed to leave his late residence, 14 Bond-street, North Fremantle, THIS (Friday) AFTERNOON, at 3.15 o'clock, proceeding to St Mary's Anglican Church, North Fremantle. and at the conclusion of a short service will proceed to the Fremantle Cemetery, arriving at 4.15 o'clock. PROSSER, SCOTT and CO., Undertakers, 76 Adelaide-street, Fremantle; and at Subiaco, Leederville and Cottesloe. Tel. FM2682. B3650, B3399, F1066.
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ACORN LODGE, U.A.O.D., No. 463.
WOOLLEY.— The Members of the above Lodge, and the Order in general, are respectfully requested to attend the Funeral of their late Brother, John Edward Woolley. The Funeral is appointed to leave his late residence, 14 Bond street, North Fremantle, THIS (Friday) AFTER- NOON, at 3.15 o'clock, arriving at the Fremantle Cemetery at 4.15 o'clock. A. GIBSON, A.D. J. REYNOLDS. Secretary.
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FREMANTLE CITY AND DISTRICT SUB- BRANCH, R.S.L. WOOLLEY. — The Members of the above Sub-branch are respectfully requested to attend the Funeral of their late Comrade, Pte. John Edward Woolley, No. 6824. 28th Battalion, A.I.F. The Funeral is appointed to leave his late residence, 14 Bond-street, North Fremantle, THIS (Friday) AFTERNOON, at 3.15 o'clock, arriving at the Fremantle Cemetery at 4.15 o'clock. J. W. LYNCH. President. P. S. JANE, Secretary.
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T.B. SOLDIERS' ASSOCIATION.
WOOLLEY. — The Members of the above Association are respectfully requested to attend the Funeral of their late Comrade, Pte. John Edward Woolley. The Funeral is appointed to leave his late residence, 14 Bond- street, North Fremantle, THIS (Friday) AFTER- NOON, at 3.15 o'clock, arriving at the Fremantle Cemetery at 4.15 o'clock. L. W. F. HARVEY. Hon. Secretary
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AUSTRALASIAN SOCIETY OF ENGINEERS.
WOOLLEY;.— The Members of the above Society are respectfully requested to attend the Funeral of their late Member, John Edward Woolley. The Funeral is appointed to leave his late residence, 14 Bond-street. North Fremantle, THIS (Friday) AFTERNOON, at 3.15 o'clock, arriving at the Fremantle Cemetery at 4.1 5 o'clock. O. P. COLE, President J. HARRIS. Secretary.
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Carmen Woolley marries John J D DUGGAN…
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Carmen Irma Woolley married John Joseph Dominic Duggan on the 7-9-1940
at St Patricks Church, Freemantle, Western Australia.
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John Joseph Dominic Duggan was born on 1 Oct 1914 at Freemantle, Western Australia.
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With a photograph of the bride to be in the Sunday Times newspaper these words were published…
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Sunday Times (Perth, WA : 1902-1954) Sunday 1 September 1940 PAGE 14
MISS CARMEN WOOLLEY,
of East Fremantle, whose marriage to Mr. Johnny Duggan, of Fremantle, will take place on Saturday next at St. Patrick's Church, Fremantle.
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The following weeks Sunday Times newspaper published this article…
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Sunday Times (Perth, WA : 1902-1954) Sunday 8 September 1940 PAGE 20
Orchids from Sydney
SMART model frocks were worn
at the wedding yesterday at St. Patrick's Church, Fremantle, when Carmen, eldest daughter of Mrs. J. Woolley and the late Mr. Woolley, of Glyde-street, Mosman Park, was married to John, eldest son of Mr. and Mrs. J. Duggan, of Hampton-road, Beaconsfield. Father Ryan officiated, and the bride was given away by her uncle, Mr. Kevin Allen.
The bride chose a Parisien model of sheer romaine with white accessories and balibuntal hat, and carried a handbag finished with a spray of blue hyacinths.
Miss Thyra Woolley (her sister) chose a frock of heavenly pink romaine with light-weight pink felt hat, and posy of sweet peas. Mr. Bernard Flindell was best man.
The reception was at the bride's home, Mrs. Woolley receiving, and wearing a black light-weight ensemble. The bride's aunt. Mrs. Vera Allen, travelled from Sydney to be present at the wedding, and wore a burnt sugar suit with moleskin sleeves. She wore a spray of slipper orchids brought from her home in Eliza- beth Bay for her own and the bride's mother's frock.
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Births of Michael and Allen Duggan...
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The West Australian
(Perth, WA : 1879-1954)
Wednesday 12 February 1941 page 1
DUGGAN (nee Woolley).-On February 11 at Devonleigh Hospital, Cottesloe. to Carmen. wife of John Duggan.
48 Glyde-street. Mosman Park a son (Michael John). Both well.
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...even before Carmen and John Duggan's second son is born John is tragically killed while serving in the 2nd World War in Papua New Guinea.
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The West Australian
(Perth, WA : 1879-1954)
Monday 6 December 1943 page 1
DUGGAN.--Fond remembrance of (John- nie Hotspur), John Joseph Duggan (AIF. returned ME), died of wounds. NG. November 20. 1943. Inserted by Fred and Elsie Wintle. A good sport.
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Birth of Allen Duggan NSW...
After the death of Carmen's love of her life she gives birth to her second son Allen in New South Wales.

.John Joseph Dominic Duggan died on 20 Nov 1943 at Papua New Guinea at age 29 of wounds received in Action.

John Joseph Dominic Duggan enlisted on 23 Jun 1941 in the RAAF at Perth, WA, Australia; his regimental details 415075 LAC J. J. D. Duggan posted to the 9 Elementary Flying School until discharge on 28 Nov 1941. He then enlisted on 07 Jan 1942 in the Army, his regimental details WX18739 Pte J. J. D. Duggan serving with the 2/32 AIF.

The family story was that these two were love struck and then John was whisked away to fight in the war. He first went to Europe and the middle east and then on the way back to Perth his boat was diverted to New Guinea. the story goes on to report he was killed the first day his troop went out to fight there.

The family story goes on to state that Carmen never got over his death and she eventually took her own life in her own mothers house 20 years later.

Carmen Irma Duggan died in 1963 at Sydney, NSW, Australia.
31-10-1963 42 Centenary Park Island Gardens, (CP Island Border 84) another gem find by cousin "Super sleuth Kay".
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birth of Thyra Pauline Woolley ...
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The second daughter of Carmen and John Duggan was born 1924 at Perth Western Australia and she was named
Thrya Pauline Duggan.

I have very few stories about Thyra other than she was at the same house Lulu and Irma were living in at Canning Bridge Applecross Western Australia. I also have a few images of Thrya with my mother as a baby and young toddler. Other than that I know nothing about her.

Through my cousin Kay's research I do know that Thrya married Edward Sydney Buffett, son of Reuben Reginald Buffett May Waterhouse, in 1941 at Mosman Park.
Western Australia.

Also cousin Kay found that Thrya also married a George Black Hopes, son of William Hopes, on 1 May 1946 at Waverley, NSW, Australia.

Thrya Pauline2 Woolley (Irma1 Allen) was born in 1924 at Perth, WA, Australia.

Thrya Pauline Woolley married Edwin Sydney Buffett, son of Reuben Reginald Buffett and May Waterhouse, in 1941 at Mossman, NSW, Australia. Thrya Pauline Woolley and an unknown person were divorced in 1945 at NSW, Australia.

Thrya Pauline Woolley married George Black Hopes, son of William Hopes, on 1 May 1946 at Waverley, NSW, Australia. ,


Thrya Pauline Woolley and Edwin Sydney Buffett lived on 7 Apr 1942 at 60 Ourimbah, Mossman, NSW, Australia.

Thrya Pauline Woolley and George Black Hopes lived in 1946 at 2 Martins Avenue, Bondi, NSW, Australia.

Edwin Sydney Buffett , was born on 8 Jun 1920 at Norfolk Island.

Edwin Sydney Buffett married Meryl Leicester Rose on 18 Jul 1946 at Woollhara, NSW, Australia. ,

Edwin Sydney Buffett died on 12 Dec 1987 at Sydney, NSW, Australia, at age 67.
Children of Thrya Pauline2 Woolley and Edwin Sydney Buffett are:
+ 6i.Sandra May3 Buffett was born on 31 Dec 1940 at NSW, Australia.

Sandra May Buffett married Michael Richard Guinane on 23 Apr 1966.

There were no children of Thrya Pauline2 Woolley and the unknown spouse mentioned above.

George Black Hopes was born on 30 Oct 1920 at Burwood, NSW, Australia.

George Black Hopes died in 1964 There was a George Black Hopes death registered at Kurri Kurri NSW, Father George and Mother Grace, no registration number - need further research to establish if correct person.
There were no children of Thrya Pauline2 Woolley and George Black Hopes.

Generation Three

6. Sandra May3 Buffett (Thrya2 Woolley, Irma1 Allen) , , was born on 31 Dec 1940 at NSW, Australia.

Sandra May Buffett married Michael Richard Guinane on 23 Apr 1966.

Michael Richard Guinane was born on 18 Apr 1939.
Children of Sandra May3 Buffett and Michael Richard Guinane are as follows:
7i.Dale Michael4 Guinane was born on 2 Feb 1968.
8ii.Craig Rowland Guinane was born on 11 Apr 1970.
9iii.Jason Richard Guinane was born on 17 Jan 1974