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Soviet Vostok Komandirskie "Rising Star" 1985/1990. Mechanic, 17 jewels. Cal. 2414A. "Two hour crown" variant.
Ref. : forums.watchuseek.com/f10/rising-star-sun-1652178.html
Ref. (french) : www.montres-russes.org/t1339-vostok-rising-sun-red-star-chir
Sony Alpha A7
M42 Soviet macro lens MC Volna-9 50mm f/2.8
Reference : allphotolenses.com/lenses/item/c_273.html
Reference (french) : www.picturz.fr/fr/post/15.volna-9-mc
Presentation / Aperture preset system : www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uurArGAZRA
Flickr group : www.fluidr.com/groups/volna-9_macro_lens/interesting
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ACS-1 Mig Clock
"The ACS-1 aircraft clock is one of the most fascinating clocks I have found, not only because of its military application, but also because of its complications.
It was made for the fastest and highest-flying Soviet/Russian fighter jet planes (such as MiG-23, MiG-25, MiG-29 and Su-27), original Russian Air Force issue, and produced by Molnija, Мопния, (Chelyabinsk Watch Factory), in Chelyabinsk, Челябинск, east of the Ural Mountains, about 1500 km. east of Moscow.
It has a timer and a seconds chronograph. The top dial shows the number of hours and minutes that, for example, the pilot has been in flight. The bottom dial shows the minutes and seconds elapsed, in a separate and independent stopwatch. I found the first two photos on the internet. The first photo shows where the clock was mounted in the aircraft."
(Mark V. Headrick - www.abbeyclock.com)
Ref. :
www.abbeyclock.com/photos/mig.html
forums.watchuseek.com/f10/russian-aircraft-clock-panel-19...
Raketa "Big Zero" (Originally designed for visually impaired people)
Brand : Raketa ("Rocket")
Petrodvorets Watch Factory* (Leningrad / Saint Petersburg)
Model: Big Zero
Year: Middle 80'
Caliber: 2609.HA, hand-wound, 19 jewels
Soviet Premier Mikhail Gorbachev wore a Big Zero, and on one occasion, when asked by Italian journalists what "perestroika" meant for Russia, he said that Russians wanted to start their lives from zero, and showed them the watch to illustrate his point.
The next day his photographs appeared on the papers with caption like, "The Russians are starting all over again from zero!"
My Soviet / Russian watch collection : flic.kr/s/aHsk2qaD6o
Sony Alpha A7
Adapter : LA-EA4
Lens : Tamron SP AF 90mm 2.8 Di Macro 1:1 (Sony A)
Brand: Волна/Volna ("Wave")
Chistopol Watch Factory USSR
Year: 1958 T3
Caliber: 2809 22 jewels. Inspired from the well known Precision Zenith 135 caliber: i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz218/LouRLS/Zenith%20135/xDS...
"2809 is the only chronometer-class movement ever produced in Russia. More accurate than anything else. As robust and dependable as Pobeda or Raketa 26xxHA, but unlike them - extremely accurate even after years of poor or no servicing. Different classes of watches, I guess - iconic dial for Sputnik, sturdiest case for Amphibia, and the best handwind movement - for 2809"
reference :
forums.watchuseek.com/f10/two-vostok-2809-puzzles-733380....
forums.watchuseek.com/f10/three-generations-vostok-precis...
Volna / Precision Vostok and caliber 2809 are among the most discussed subjects in the world of Soviet watches. On the Russian forum, the topic devoted to the Volna includes over 90 pages : "Vostok-Volna Precision: Myth or Reality?"
forum.watch.ru/showthread.php?t=68681
A lively debate about the 2809 caliber on the French website devoted to Russian watches :
www.montres-russes.org/t2784-une-montre-volna
Caliber 2809 slowmotion : www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1LG36iAGs8
Sony A7
Carl Zeiss Jena DDR Flektogon 35mm f/2.4
Made in 1MWF (First Moscow Watch Factory - Первый Государственный Часовой Завод - 1ГЧЗ)
Gold plated case (35mm diam.). Guilloche square pattern on dial.
Automatic caliber 2415 "orbita" 29 jewels. The smallest and thinest Soviet automatic caliber ever produced (1962 - 1970?)
Dm= 24.0mm, Do= 24.6mm rotor revolution circle D= 28.05mm) H= 3.9mm F= 0.75mm T= 1.35mm 29 jewels f = 18000 A/h power reserve 36h
"...The self-winding gear is integrated in the movement, instead of attaching it to a manual-wind calibre as usual. Together with other design details, this led to a sensationally thin but still rugged movement at that time. Only contemporary movements with micro rotor (e.g. Buren) were thinner..."
www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&1archimedeshop...
Interesting debate on Watchuseek about Soviet automatic movements 24xx / 26xx :
forums.watchuseek.com/f10/poljot-automatic-movements-i-am...
Other automatic 2415 models (Sergei Antonov catalogs website) :
picasaweb.google.com/113098239036073221216/70X?noredirect...
My collection : www.flickr.com/photos/73820317@N05/sets/72157646830591156/
Sony Alpha A7
M42 Soviet macro lens MC Volna-9 50mm f/2.8
Reference : allphotolenses.com/lenses/item/c_273.html
Reference (french) : www.picturz.fr/fr/post/15.volna-9-mc
Presentation / Aperture preset system : www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uurArGAZRA
Flickr group : www.fluidr.com/groups/volna-9_macro_lens/interesting
Minsk Watch Factory
Brand: Luch
Year: circa 1975 / 1980
Caliber: Slim 2209 23 jewels. www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&0&a...
Diam. : 35mm
"Luch or "Beam"/"Ray" (Belarusian: Луч), founded in 1953, is a watch brand produced by the Minsk Watch Factory (Belarusian: Минский часовой завод) in Minsk, Belarus. In 2010, Swiss watchmaker Franck Muller International BV purchased 80% of the Minsk Watch Factory and plans to launch a new line of watches based on Swiss-designed movements."
ref. : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luch_%28watch%29
"Mechanism 2209 was first produced by Ist Moscow watch factory (1My3-1MWF) for the period 1961-75. Then mechanism's production was left to the Belorussian Luch factory that has continued to produce it until 1980.
During the transition period (74-76) most probably some thousand mechanisms produced by 1My3 and embossed 1My3 as well as mechanisms produced by 1My3 and embossed Luch (Λ), were shipped to Luch factory for assembly. (This is why you can find Luch watches 2209 with 1My3 embossed mechanisms)"
ref. :
forums.watchuseek.com/f10/got-my-first-russian-watch-amph...
forums.watchuseek.com/f10/slimiada-my-luch-poljot-slims-2...
Sony A7
Helios 40 (1962) 85mm F/1.5
Brand : Poljot
1st Moscow Watch Factory
Model: Dress Watch
Year: Early 60'.
Caliber: 2409, hand-wound, 17 jewels
Case gold plated 20 microns (AU 20)
"Poljot 'foreign' are UK market watches from between about 1961 (when Poljot was first used as an export brand) and 1966 (when Sekonda became the brand used for all USSR watches on the UK market). 'Foreign' was an inscription used in the UK first in the early post-WWI period for German watches, then again in the post-WWII period up until the the early 1960s for German watches and later for USSR watches. I suspect that it was the Soviet end of the Sekonda venture that insisted on the dropping of 'Foreign' in favour of 'USSR'. Even after 'Foreign' went out of fashion, DDR watches were sometimes marked 'Germany' to disguise their Communist origins."
Reference : forums.watchuseek.com/f10/month-ago-i-had-not-heard-21-je...
Sony Nex-3
Carl Zeiss Jena DDR FLEKTOGON 35mm f/2.4
c1955
AS1130 17J mechanical movement
I found this on the internet (Watchuseek):
Dogma was a watch brand produced in the period 1860-1970 by the Fabr.d'Horl Clémence Freres & Cie. (later - A. Dorsaz & Cie.) in La Chaux de Fonds, Switzerland. This one is a well-known "watch-city", where local watch-making culture dates back to the 17th century and is still alive to this very day. It seems that the company started making watches as early as 1860 since in the 60's of the 20th century they celebrated their 100th anniversary. In 1909 the company struck a deal with a watch/gold retailer Siegmund Neumann who had several stores in Basel and Luxemburg. It's very likely that later on, during World War II this cooperation helped them become one of the Swiss manufacturers making "Dienstuhren" or Service watches for the Wehrmacht and the Luftwaffe. Some of their watches from that period are Landeron movements, but they mostly used the Adolf Schild (AS) 1130 movement as most of the other comparable German Service Watches providers did - Phenix, Freco, Bulla, Glycine, Helma, Choisi, Nisus, Midi, Era, Flora, Gala, Onda, BWC, Pront, etc. Their pieces during the war were with superb quality. After the war - in 1949, the company was re-registered and the brand was transferred to the Fabrique d'Horlogerie Arthus Dorsaz & Co. They started selling Dogma on their own all over Western Europe. Not much additional info on them during the 50-60s except from October 1956 - the company filled a trademark infringement case agains a rival brand - Dog. Brand made by the Redia watch co. mainly for selling it in Tangier. The case was won by Arthur Dorsaz & Co.
Overall during their whole lifespan the Dogma watches stand for fairly priced, decent quality pieces. Known movements they've used in the 30s, 40s and 50s are FHF 2124, Adolf Schild (AS) 1130, Landeron (39, 47, 48, 149), Fleurier (FEF 290) and ETA (853). During the 60's the company was still on the market, but only a handfull of Dogma pieces with Valjoux 7733 have resurfaced, so it's very likely that the company has fallen a victim of the Swiss “Quartz Crisis”.
Last known info on the brand itself is from 1972 when Aubry Frères SA acquired the rights to it. In 2008 the brand reappeared in Madrid, Spain as a low-end designer pieces made by Brit Watch Internacional, S.L. The "new Dogma" is using the old logo and claiming to have inherited the old company (this time established in 1897). They are still around and making cheap Rolex and Hublot knockoffs with questionable quality and cheap ETA movements.
Stamped on case : To W.Stockburn from - The Staff - College Of Art
I bought this watch to a UK seller. "College of Art" is the common name for art schools in Britain.
My opinion is that this guy belonged to the staff of this school. Director ? Teacher ?
W.Stockburn should be someone appreciated. He should be proud and happy when he received this nice gift, long time ago, in the early 60s.
This watch is my favorite in my collection, not only because it's a rare Poljot model, but also because it tells me a nice, and human story.
Brand : Poljot
1st Moscow Watch Factory
Model: Dress Watch
Year: Early 60'.
Caliber: 2409A, hand-wound, 21 jewels
Case gold plated 20 microns (AU 20)
"Poljot 'foreign' are UK market watches from between about 1961 (when Poljot was first used as an export brand) and 1966 (when Sekonda became the brand used for all USSR watches on the UK market). 'Foreign' was an inscription used in the UK first in the early post-WWI period for German watches, then again in the post-WWII period up until the the early 1960s for German watches and later for USSR watches. I suspect that it was the Soviet end of the Sekonda venture that insisted on the dropping of 'Foreign' in favour of 'USSR'. Even after 'Foreign' went out of fashion, DDR watches were sometimes marked 'Germany' to disguise their Communist origins."
Reference : forums.watchuseek.com/f10/month-ago-i-had-not-heard-21-je...
Sony Nex-3
Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50mm f/1.8 (with medium extension tube)
Brand : Kama ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kama_River )
"As far as i remember, Kama watches had a specific type of caseback that needs to be turned for 1/5 of its diameter, in a way similar to the cap of a fuel tank (sorry for the very silly comparison, but it's the easiest explaination that came in my mind)."
Reference : forums.watchuseek.com/f10/kama-watch-won-ebay-444891.html...
Cal. : 2604 (17 jewels)
Year : 1958 (Third trim. engraved on caliber : 3-58)
Tschistopolsky Watch Factory (Vostok Factory since 1964)
Sony Nex-3
Carl Zeiss Jena DDR FLEKTOGON 35mm f/2.4
Brand : Kama ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kama_River )
"As far as i remember, Kama watches had a specific type of caseback that needs to be turned for 1/5 of its diameter, in a way similar to the cap of a fuel tank (sorry for the very silly comparison, but it's the easiest explaination that came in my mind)."
Reference : forums.watchuseek.com/f10/kama-watch-won-ebay-444891.html...
Cal. : 2604 (17 jewels)
Year : 1958 (Third trim. engraved on caliber : 3-58)
Tschistopolsky Watch Factory (Vostok Factory since 1964)
Sony Nex-3
Carl Zeiss Jena DDR FLEKTOGON 35mm f/2.4
天氣好就帶著 Hamilton Intra-Matic 68 一起出門吧!
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Brand : Raketa ("Rocket")
Petrodvorets Watch Factory* (Leningrad / Saint Petersburg)
Model: Baltika**
Year: Middle 60'
Caliber: 2609, hand-wound, 21 jewels
Sony Nex-3
Sony E 30mm f/3.5 macro
* "In its glory years after the war, the plant employed 8,000 people, produced 4.5 million watches per year for Soviet citizens and the needs of the Red Army. The plant is equipped with two atomic bunkers that can accommodate 8,000 people in the case of a western nuclear attack, had its own schools, university, hospital, resorts on the Black Sea, camps for Communist Youth Pioneer organization and Komsomol and its orchestras."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodvorets_Watch_Factory
** "The original brand name for this type of watch was Baltika, but then the Petrodvorets Watch Factory adopted Raketa as the brand for all their models. Collectors usually refer to Raketa branded watches using the original 2609 movement as Baltika, the same way that Poljot and Sekonda chronographs with the 3017 movement are often generically known as Strela."
forums.watchuseek.com/f10/what-makes-raketa-baltika-38710...
from the renaming of Samara State Aerospace University, in the same city as the Zim watch factory. More here:
forums.watchuseek.com/f10/flying-sickles-zim-story-785999...
I’m going to try and use this project to bring photography and some of my other passions together. One of those is watches. I’ve never tried watch photography before so this was a learning curve - one of the main things is reflections! They get everywhere when shooting a game watch like this! I’m also hoping to bring you another passion to this project soon too - cars. I have a few things in the pipeline on that front so stay tuned 😉
| a7rii | Sony FE 90mm F2.8 Macro G OS | f/2.8 | 3.2s | ISO100 |
Late 70s quartz watch by Junghans with the second generation Junghans quartz movement: the 667 (version .20). I'd say '76-'78 period (should be printed inside but could not find it so far).
Not a Max Bill and not a Astro / Astra Quartz but still decent, fresh, large (!) and a work horse. Some love for early quartzes ;)
Post Soviet production. Made in Belarus in.....06 I believe. Integral movement. I've had it a while. Nicest thing about this Elektronika is that it is thin. Very thin. And it's tough. Tougher than the typical current Casio or Timex. A couple of years ago I stop into a Target to pick a new watch. I soon realized that my old Elektronika was tank-like and a new Casio or Timex wouldn't hold up. Well.... G-Shocks are nice. I have one at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico now.... ;-(
Funny... Now the Western good is often inferior. At least in my opinion. One of my sisters came to the same conclusion and now rocks a vintage girls Elektronika. Such a minuscule watch. I swear the face is no larger than a nickel. Anyway...
Speaking of inferior.... Never buy a Casio from anyone but a reputable seller. The world is crawling with fake Casios. Truly useless bits of sh&t. Off by many seconds per day and none adjustable. The nice Elektronika above is self-regulating and priced about the same as a real or fake Casio as it turns out.
BTW, The Melody CH-55 can still be found on Evil-bay both new and used. Sadly no longer in production.
I also have an Elektronika 54 around here somewhere.... I hope it's not lost for good. The 54 is Soviet made & pretty old as LCD watches go. Early 80s I guess. It's also very similar to the 55.
A few years ago I was told this interesting story about an old Elektronika watch. This guy buys a nice used Elektronika from a street vendor in Leningrad late 80s. Dirt cheap at around one US dollar. He had worn the watch all summer and discovered something unpleasant about his cool find first day back at university in the US. The watch turned out to be slightly irradiated!
The guy finds this out accidentally...... An assignment in a lab class involved Geiger counters. One thing leads to another and he discovers his Elektronika irradiated. Apparently not dangerously so, but enough that the watch should best not be worn..... ever. :-) OK.... An exaggeration.
How the watch came to be irradiated is a mystery. Perhaps once belonged to an evacuee of Chernobyl? One of the liquidators? Good chance it was looted from the exclusion zone and later sold. Apparently a real problem at one time.
An acquaintance told me that while working in Russia early 90s he learned loads of stuff came out of the dirty area around Chernobyl. Folks were desperate for cash and would go in get stuff to sell..... He said he once ran across Russian cop with a Geiger counter at a street-side market. That's wild.
There used to be a Ukrainian seller of photo gear on Evil-bay who checked all his items for radiation before listing! Seriously. Seller stated just that in each listing. I'll never forget the first time I read one of the listings. I thought, "Whoa..... that's crazy."
Who knows.... At one time I had bookmarked a comment someone had made about a slightly radioactive lens he bought on Evil-bay. The buyer bought the lens expecting it to be a tiny bit radioactive because of the Lanthan glass elements. He brought the lens to school and checked and sure enough..... tiny bit dirty. More than one pointed out the lens wasn't made with Lathan elements. Ooopps.... Then again the comments could be incorrect as well.
19.07.14: I found the 54.
forums.watchuseek.com/f10/soviet-digital-watches-lets-see...
Brand : Raketa ("Rocket")
Petrodvorets Watch Factory* (Leningrad / Saint Petersburg)
Model: Baltika**
Year: Middle 60'
Caliber: 2609, hand-wound, 21 jewels
Sony Nex-3
Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50mm f/1.8
* "In its glory years after the war, the plant employed 8,000 people, produced 4.5 million watches per year for Soviet citizens and the needs of the Red Army. The plant is equipped with two atomic bunkers that can accommodate 8,000 people in the case of a western nuclear attack, had its own schools, university, hospital, resorts on the Black Sea, camps for Communist Youth Pioneer organization and Komsomol and its orchestras."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodvorets_Watch_Factory
** "The original brand name for this type of watch was Baltika, but then the Petrodvorets Watch Factory adopted Raketa as the brand for all their models. Collectors usually refer to Raketa branded watches using the original 2609 movement as Baltika, the same way that Poljot and Sekonda chronographs with the 3017 movement are often generically known as Strela."
forums.watchuseek.com/f10/what-makes-raketa-baltika-38710...
Brand: Волна/Volna ("Wave")
Chistopol Watch Factory USSR
Year: circa 1963
Caliber: 2809 22 jewels (version A). Inspired from the well known Precision Zenith 135 caliber.
"2809 is the only chronometer-class movement ever produced in Russia. More accurate than anything else. As robust and dependable as Pobeda or Raketa 26xxHA, but unlike them - extremely accurate even after years of poor or no servicing. Different classes of watches, I guess - iconic dial for Sputnik, sturdiest case for Amphibia, and the best handwind movement - for 2809"
ref. :
forums.watchuseek.com/f10/two-vostok-2809-puzzles-733380....
forums.watchuseek.com/f10/three-generations-vostok-precis...
Sony Nex-3
Carl Zeiss Jena DDR FLEKTOGON 35mm f/2.4
5D88 Direct Drive Kinetic movement
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I've written a detailed breakdown of the steps I took to create this image here.
The new limited edition (This is #21 of 150) project watch from the WatchUSeek Chinese subforum. The committee running the project used contacts in Hong Kong to build an incredible bang-for-buck watch considering the low price of $130. Real big date, functional moonphase, sapphire glass, WUS logo on dial and crown. Sea-Gull ST-25 movement on the inside.
Strobist info:
Watch set up in lightbox
Canon 60d at f/11, 1/200, ISO100
Sigma 500DG Super at 1/4 from lightbox rear (main light)
Canon 420EX at 1/8 from lightbox right (fill light)
Triggered with CTR-301s
I wish I could get the sunburst dial to come out more, but I think I'd need to light more from the side to get some shadow into play - I tried for even lighting in this shot. Also, polished watch cases suck when it comes to attempting reflection-free photo's. Pretty sure advertising pics are photoshopped to hell to accomplish that.
Finally got one of these and I totally love it. It helped keep me sane on a pretty freaky Friday the 13th.
Supposed to be 100 metres water resistance but turned out not even survived the typical rainy day in Edinburgh
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My PRS-25 the Smiths Everest and PRS-27s the Smiths Big Date: Some second thoughts about my purchases with Time Factor
I have purchased three watches: the PRS-27A, PRS-27B, and PRS-25 from the Time Factors (by Edward Platts), and was happy to post some good comments and photos on the TZ-UK forum after getting them. I was once more than willing to recommend these watches to my watch loving friends. Unfortunately, after some incidents, I have my second thought. Here is my story:
- The PRS-25 Everest -Water resistance issue:
I had been happy and in love with my Everest, although I have many watches, I still managed to wear it at least two days a week. Nonetheless, after three months of its arrival, I was surprised to see my watch's crystal looked steamy after a walk in a typical Scottish rainy day on the streets of Edinburgh. It reminded me a cheap toy watch I had in my childhood and I could not believe it happened to my Everest, which supposed to have WR for 100 metres. Totally shocked.
I contacted Eddie at once, with detailed photos about the issue, and suspected that water was probably leaked between the crystal and the case as a drop of water was visible there. Eddie agreed to deal with the issue. I sent the watch back to the Time Factors and the watch was returned from Eddie after more than 2 months. No explanation, not to mention any apology, was given for the failure of the water resistance.
Sadly the happiness of the reunion with the Everest did not last long, upon a close look I just realised that many stains could be seen on the watch hands. I suspected those stains are fingerprints or glue left on them. I contacted Eddie right away but he replied that he had done his goodwill in replacing my battery of the PRS-27 (see below) for me, which is nothing related to this PRS-25, and he was not prepared to do anything further.
- The PRS-27s
1. The PRS-27B
Upon a closer look of my PRS-27B a few days after its arrival, I found a tiny white spot on upper side of the six o'clock dial and a tiny grey/black spot on the right-hand side of upper date window. Despite these poorly finished signs are not supposed to happen with any quality watch, I was so in love with the watch that I persuaded myself to go on with it - it turned out that truly love is blind.
2. The PRS-27A
After less than two months of its arrival, the watch hands stuck at a certain time of the day. I contacted Eddie at once. After a few email communications trying to diagnose the issue, Eddies' final reply suggested that it could be the battery and suspected THEY- the manufacturer- bought old batteries for next to nothing. He seemed to forget that HE is the owner of the brand and the seller of the watch after all. After the WR issue happened to the PRS-25, I asked Eddie if I could send the PRS-27A back together to him for a check in order to make sure it was merely a battery issue. I understood that the battery is not covered by the warranty despite I purchased the watch from the Time Factors, not the manufacturer, and it stopped just within two months of it's arrival, so I mentioned that I would attach with the watch a brand new battery on my cost in case the watch's issue was only the battery. He agreed. I sent the PRS-27A and a new battery back together with the Everest.
The watch came back to me with the PRS-25. But a scrap was found on the watch face that moves with the watch. I contacted Eddie about this issue together with the stained hands issue of the PRS-25. He seemed to be annoyed that I sent the PRS-27A back as the issue was only the battery after his check. As mentioned above, he told me that he was not prepared to do anything further to this watch either.
I chose not to believe that Eddie was telling me that getting watches from the Time Factors with stains on the watch face or hands, with scrap on the face, or with steam in the crystal is normal. Unfortunately the fact seemed to suggest otherwise.
Originally I intended to include some British brand watches in my collection as one of the many ways to remember my life in the UK, and I was glad to find that there indeed exists a British micro brand producing watches that looked good to me. Unfortunately it turned out to be a nightmare and indeed added something I would definitely remember the UK for. If someone is planing to buy any watch from the Time Factors I wish him/her the best luck. I unfortunately believe that, after getting three at least once defective watches from the Time Factors, I do not possess such good luck to dare to purchase anymore from Time Factors.
Discussions of similar issues:
forums.watchuseek.com/f2/problems-smiths-everest-800650.html
www.thewatchsite.com/index.php/topic,32035.0.html
www.thewatchsite.com/index.php?topic=37969.0
forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?239599-A-curious-incident-...