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medievalpoc: ^ This is the British Library Digitized Manuscripts Site. A lot of people have asked about my process doing research for medievalpoc. I use a lot of resources and tools that are readily available for anyone to use, and this is one of them. There are thousands of manuscripts available to just page through and zoom in on, as if you had the book right in front of you. If the idea of searching through endless lists of titles and numbers is daunting to you, the Digitized Medieval Manuscripts Collection has a blog. The blog makes topical posts with images of the manuscripts according to those topics, and then links to the full manuscripts, so you can go looking at them yourself: Like so: You can learn what the heck a Leucrota is supposed to be here. They also have a Twitter. One of the best things about medievalpoc is that I get to see people get excited about art and history, and if you decide you’d like to go exploring, this is a great place to do that. I think the manuscript viewer is relatively user-friendly, and there’s a ton of information about the histories of the manuscripts themselves there, too.
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A fourth study film with my Nikon F4 to test further of its numerous functions. In particular, I would like to test in this session the matrix zone metering in the "A" automation mode (aperture priority) combined with the TTL mastering of the Nikon Speedilght SB-26 electronic flash for automatic equilibration of ambient and artificial light (fill-in exposition).
The Nikon F4 was loaded this time with an Ilford FP4+ with the DX coded nominal 125 ISO film sensitivity (transmitted to the SB-23 that displays it). The weather was quite darkened at first, but the sun appeared slightly in the middle of the afternoon. The AF Nikkor lens 1:1.4 f=50mm was fitted with a protective Hoya HMC anti-UV 52mm filter plus a generic cylindric metal shade hood.
For focusing I used all the time the single autofocus mode. As for my medium-format sessions, I took a bit of time to note on a session ticket the main parameters (shutter speed, aperture, focusing distance, flash control mode, etc).
View Nr 6: Body "A" mode with matrix metering for controlling both the ambient and flash power TTL giving 1/125s f/5.6, focus @ 7 m
"Condition paradoxale" (Gérald Martinand), November 18, 2024
Parc de la Cerisaie** - Villa Gillet
69004 Lyon
France
** PARC DE LA CERISAIE, WHOSE NAME COMES FROM THE PRESENCE, OLD, OF A CHERRY ORCHARD ALREADY BELONGS TO THE CITY OF LYON: SINCE 1976.
Previously owned by the Gillet family, precursors of silk dyeing at the beginning of the 20th century, the park and the Villa built in 1911 by the architect Joseph Folléa communicated at the time directly with their factory installed on the banks of the Saône. In the 60s, their vast industrial empire merged with the Rhône-Poulenc group of which Renaud Gillet was president from 1973 to 1979.
Very quickly, the City of Lyon chose to open this park to the people of Lyon and to direct its vocation towards the Arts. Thus, during the 2nd and 3rd sculpture symposiums of 1980 and 1982 the park hosted many works. Some of them are still there.
The villa, renovated in 1986, also became a place dedicated to the Arts. Initially, it was the headquarters of the Fonds Régional d'Art Contemporain (FRAC), the organization supporting creation, before it was transferred to the Institut d'Art Contemporain de Villeurbanne.
Today, the villa houses three cultural institutions: La Villa Gillet, which defines itself as a Contemporary Research Unit and is interested in all forms of culture (literature, human, political and social sciences, history, or contemporary arts), the Agence Rhône-Alpes pour le Livre et la Documentation (ARALD) whose objective is to promote the culture of writing and activities related to books, and the Groupe Musiques Vivantes de Lyon which works for the creation and diffusion of acoustic music.
After completion, the film was rewound using the rewinding motor (lever R1 then lever R2). During the film rewind (manual or auto) the view counter decrements and I switched-off the R2 lever just arrived at -2 to keep the leader out of the cartridge. I then processed the film developed using 300 mL of Adox Adonal (Agfa Rodinal) developer prepared at the dilution 1+25 for 9min at 20°C.
Digitizing was made using a Sony A7 camera (ILCE-7, 24MP) held on a Minolta Auto Bellows with the Minolta slide duplication accessory and Minolta Macro Bellow lens 1:3.5 f=50mm. The light source was a LED panel CineStill Cine-lite.
The RAW files obtained were inverted within the latest version available of Adobe Lightroom Classic (version 14) and edited to the final jpeg pictures without intermediate file. They are presented either as printed files with frame or the full size JPEG's together with some documentary smartphone color pictures.
The results show that the Nikon F4 matrix metering coupled to the automatic shutter timing and TTL control of the SB-26 Speedlight torch gives amazingly well-exposed view quite consistent with my traditional way to determine the exposition manually for fill-in exposure mixing ambient and electronic torch.
Overall this third session with the Nikon F4 confirms that the camera is very pleasant to use despite its 1.7kg (fitted with its standard 1.4/50mm). The minimalistic Nikon neck strap remains comfortable and well proportionated to the camera even when the SB-26 is fitted to the camera body.
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About the camera :
Maybe it would have been better not to ask for this question: « what’s new do you have at the moment?» to my local photo store, because Christine grab underneath the counter, stating « I have that … » . What a beast ! A Nikon F4 in the exact state of the Nikon brochure year 1990, presented with the standard AF Nikkor 1:1.4 f=50mm. I was already hooked by the machine. After two days, I decided to buy it even with some little common issues found on early Nikon F4 (see below), fortunately not affecting the whole, numberous functions of this incredibly complex professional SLR of the year 1990’s.
Nikon F4 came to the market on September 1988 starting with the serial number 2.000.000. Fully manufactured in Japan (modules came from 3 different Nikon factories) the F4's were assembled in Mito, Ibaraki (North to Tokyo) Nikon plant (no more in the mother factory of Tokyo Oi like the Nikon’s F). When I lived in Tokyo in 1990-1991, Nikon F4 was the top-of-the-line of Nikon SLR camera’s. I saw it in particular in Shinjuku Bic Camera store when I bought there, in December 1990 my Nikonos V.
Nikon F4 incorporates many astonishing engineering features as the double vertical-travel curtain shutter capable of the 1/8000s. Compared to the Nikon F3, the F4 was an AF SLR operated by a CCD sensor (200 photo sites). The film is automatically loaded, advanced with to top speed of 5,7 frame/s !! With the MB-21 power grip (F4s version). The F4 is a very heavy camera (1.7kg with the AF Nikkor 1.4/50mm), incredibly tough and well constructed. This exemplary is devoid of any scratches or marks, and in a condition proving that it was not used for hard professional appliances, for those it was however intended. The camera has still it original Nikon neck strap, the original user manual in French. The lens is protected by a Cokin (Franc) Skylight 1A 52mm filter and the original Nikon front cap. The two small LCD displays (one on the F4 body, one in the DP-20 finder) are both affected by the classical syndrome of « bleeding ». Fortunately, all information could still be read. One says that 70% of the early Nikon F4 suffer from this problem but also found on other models.
According its serial number and the production rate of about 5000 units/month, this Nikon F4s was probably manufactured in Mito, Ibaraki, Japan in May 1989.
The camera was exported abroad thereafter attested by the presence of the golden oval little sticker("Passed" on the DP-20 viewfinder. In order to certify the quality production, two Japanese organizations, the Japan Camera Industry Institute (JCII) and the Japan Machinery Design Center (JMDC), joined forces to verify and mark the conformity of products for the foreign market. This is how, between the 1950s and 1980s, this famous little gold sticker was affixed, with the legendary "Passed", meaning that the device had been checked. Finally, when we say that the device had been checked, the production line had been checked because each device could not be checked individually.
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About the flash :
I received from a German seller for 50€ this Nikon Speedlight electronic flash SB-26 that was, at the time of Nikon F4, the most powerful dedicated Nikon flash (Guide Number 36 at full power and 100 ISO).
The SB-26 communicates with the Nikon F4 body (and many other Nikon camera's) and can be operated in many different modes including TTL real-time metering with automatic equilibration of the ambient light using the 5-zone matrix metering done by the DP-20 photometric viewer as well in the center-weighted mode. Other possibilities include the normal TTL mode, an Auto mode using the own sensor of the flash and a manual mode with 7 power levels.
The flash head can cover the optical field from super-wide angle lenses 18-20mm, wide-angle lenses 28mm and 35mm, normal lenses 50mm, and long-focal lenses at 70mm and 85mm. The head can be rotated according two axis for indirect lightening. In addition, the SB-26 has a special focusing aid for the Nikon F4 autofocus system, projecting in the the darkness a red focusing image. SB-23 flash can be also used as master or slave flash in a coordinated flash system.
The flash requires 4 AA alkaline cells for approximately 100 lights at full power and much more with energy recycling at lower power levels.
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From back of photo: "Mathilda (Budd) Eastlack. Mother of Lydia Paul (Eastlack) Gleeson daughter of Josiah & Mary Anna (Brown) Budd. Grandmother of Emma G. DeHart. Samuel Piper 270 So. 2nd St., Philadelphia."
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Mathilda Budd Eastlack, 1850-1928
As a second roll of negative color film with my new camera Pentax 17 (see below for the details about the camera), I loaded a more regular 36- exposure Kodak Gold 200 cartridge and exposed the film for its nominal 200 ISO over two weeks from May 15 to June 1st, 2025 in Lyon, France and the surroundings.
The Pentax 17 was equipped with an Anti-UV or polarizing filter as indicated below . For the camera transportation, I used a small camera bag ThinkTank « Mirrorless Mover 5 » that was well protecting the camera from possibly damaging vibrations when using my bicycle.
The expositions were automatically metered by the camera system using the « P » program modes with, or without, flash. For very bright scenes the exposition was corrected by +0.3 to +1EV to compensate the biais induced (and reversely -0.3 to 0.7 EV for very dark scenes to objects). The Pentax 117 light sensors being behind the filter, the filter is then automatically compensated.
Montée du Boulevard, June 1st, 2025
69004 Lyon
France.
After completion (75 frames), the film was processed by a local lab service using the C-41 protocol.
Single-frame digitizing was made using a Sony A7 camera (ILCE-7, 24MP) fitted to a Minolta Auto Bellows III with the Minolta slide duplication accessory and Minolta Macro Bellow lens 1:3.5 f=50mm at approximate reproduction ratio of 1:2. The diffuse light source was a LED panel CineStill Cine-lite.
The RAW files obtained were inverted within the latest version available of Adobe Lightroom Classic (version 14.3.1) and edited to the final jpeg pictures without intermediate file. They are presented either as printer files with a frame or the full size JPEG's together with some documentary smartphone color pictures.
About the camera :
Since last Christmas 2024, it was on display in the middle of « reusable » cheap camera’s in the window of my local photography store. But this camera is not cheap and sold at 10-times the price of those « reusable » film camera’s. The Pentax 17 is a novel film camera released by Pentax (a brand belonging to Ricoh Imaging, Japan) in June 2024.
The history of « Pentax » name is still something worth to mention. After the WWII, in Dresden (that was heavily destroyed by the bombing of Feb. 13-15, 1945), Germany, The Zeiss Ikon company could not produce anymore the legendary original Contax (a high-reputation professional range-finder 35mm released in 30’s) camera that was taken by Russia and transferred to Kiev, Ukraine, in the USSR. However the brand name Contax survived and the German engineers designed something completely new within several years : the Contax S (S for « Spiegel mirror reflex ») that integrated a pentaprism for a full redressed reflex viewer observation. Zeiss Ikon Dresden registered to new trademarks derived from the words « Pentaprism » and « Contax » that were « Pentax » and « Pentacon ». If Pentacon became the new name of the company in Dresden, the trademark Pentax was bought by Asahi Optical Company in Japan, and became a formidable industrial and commercial success. Asahi Pentax, then Pentax alone, produced amazing quality camera’s including the legendary « Spotmatic » (a 35mm SLR) and stunning medium-format camera’s heavily used by professional photographers. Many of these camera’s of the past century are still operative and appreciated by film photography enthusiast’s.
Production of film camera’s vanished progressively in the mid 2000’s, as digital camera’s became of better quality and finally of generalized appliances in photography. The Pentax 17 was introduced to the market in June 2024, it was a big surprise for all the film photography lovers. Seeing a newly engineered brand-new film camera was a sort of renaissance of the film photography today of a growing interest worldwide.
The camera is a « half-frame » format on the traditional double-perforated 35mm film giving 17x24mm photograms. This format was not as popular as to classical 24x36mm (full-frame) format of most of the 35mm camera’s. However famous and quality half-frame camera’s were produced in the past including, the long series of Olympus Pen for example. Then, the Pentax 17 immediately attracted the attention of experimented film photographers and camera collectors, probably more than the officially targeted customers of the younger generations. Less than a year after, the future of the Pentax 17 and the film photography project of Pentax is questioned today. The chef-engineer who conducted the project in Ricoh company recently left and the marketing of Pentax 17 is now a question.
This finally decided me to buy an exemplary from my local shop and to discover this strange machine. The camera is of course guaranteed, even with a there-year extension after the camera registration on the Pentax website. The whole ergonomic is clearly derived from classical past 35mm camera’s with a fully mechanical film advance and rewind, a collimated Albada viewer, no digital display at all, only levers, barrels, crank and wheels… However inside is a automatic electronic exposure system with flash, the focusing is manual but the electronic mechanism moves the whole optical group with a micro motor.
The lens is a Cooke triplet 1:3.5 f=25mm equivalent to a 37mm of a 24x36mm format. The Cooke triplet is a photographic lens designed and patented in 1893 by Dennis Taylor who was employed as chief engineer by T. Cooke & Sons of York. It was the first lens system that allowed the elimination of most of the optical distortion or aberration at the outer edge of the image. It likely for this reason that the lens is unscripted curiously « Traditional » on the front lens ring… It is known that a Cooke triplet lens could give surprisingly good results with only three separated optical elements. The Cooke Triplet is still widely used in inexpensive cameras, including variations using aspheric elements, particularly in cell-phone cameras. The Cooke triplet consists of three separated lenses positioned at the finite distance. It is often considered that the triplet is one of the most important discoveries in the field of photographic objectives
The lens receives 40.5mm diameter thread filters that I use for my Zorki / Leningrad lenses Jupiter-8 2/50mm, Jupiter-11 4/135mm and Jupiter-12 2.8/35mm. The metal shade hood Minolta D42KA could mounted on the filter but I have to check is there is vignette induced.
The camera size is close to the original dimensions of a thread-mount Leica (called also the original Barnack Leica) which are, in a way, a sort of « Gold » size in the 35mm camera’s. I compared with my Zorki 1D year 1954 that is a straight reproduction of the Leica Iic. The upper deck of Pentax 17 is designed very clearly as a classical 35mm and we even find the original logo of Asahi Optical Company. The rewind crank is also a revival of past design seen on old Pentax SLR as my year-1971 Spotmatic SP in this seres of pictures.
The Pentax 17 is very light (about 300g) compared to those old ancestors that weight easily the double or the triple. It is then an effortless camera to carry. The Pentax 17 fits in the small ThinkTank bag (called « Mirorless Mover 5 ») that I recently bought to safely carry a film back of my Hasselblad or my Bronica 6X6 camera’s. In this tiny bag, the camera is protected for the element and vibrations due to cycling for instance.
Reference
analoguewonderland.co.uk/blogs/film-photography-blog/pent...
Key features and specifications
* Half-frame image capture (17 x 24mm)
* 37mm (equiv.) FOV F3.5 lens
* Zone focusing system with 6 zones
* Circular leaf shutter (F3.5-16)
* Built-in flash (6m/20ft at ISO100)
* Optical tunnel viewfinder with frame lines
* Exposure from 1/350 sec to 4 sec (+ Bulb)
* Supports films from ISO 50 to ISO 3200
Specifically the lens has:
1. HD coating, which maintains high performance of the lens, by using this PENTAX multi-coating. This also enables high contrast and high definition right to the edges.
2. SP coating (Super Protect) which helps to repel water and oil from the lens.
The fact that the focusing on the Pentax 17 is electronic i.e. the lens only moves when you half-press the shutter gives me faith that autofocus was already considered in the R&D stage.
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From back of photo: "Sister of Lydia E. Gleeson. Aunt Annie Platt. H.E. Lovejoy, Photographic Art Studio. 500 So. 2nd Street, Philadelphia."
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Mary Anna Eastlack Platt, 1868-1956
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From back of photo: Uncle Tone and Aunt Emma Campbell lived in Pullman, N.J. Emma Gleeson Campbell, sister of Charles Gleeson, Sr. Aunt of Emma G. DeHart."
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Anthony B. Campbell, 1854-1929
Emma Gleeson Campbell, 1858-1942
From back of photo: "Mother Gleeson, Lydia Eastlack Gleeson. Age 25 years. Wedding picture. Mother of Emma DeHart. Grandmother of Florence DeHart Burns, Ernestine (Dolly) DeHart Renaud. Haberle. 210 N. 8th St. Philadelphia."
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Lydia P. Eastlack Gleeson, 1872-1953
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On December 24, 2024, I picked up my venerable Leica M3 year 1956 (see below for details) for a photowalk in Lyon city, France. I went to Fourvière, enjoying a not too cold (6°C) and clear sunny weather.
My Leica was loaded with a 36-exposure Ilford HP5+ film. I equipped the Summicron 2/5cm lens with a Hoya HMC AUV screw-on 39mm protective filter plus the Leitz shade hood for all indoor scenes, and outdoor I mounted a push-on 42mm FOCA (France) Yellow x2.5 filter and a generic cylindrical stainless steel hood that, unfortunately, induced some vignette if not perfectly aligned, that should be corrected during the processing). I should find a 39mm screw-on filter more safe to use with my Summicron 2/5cm,
Expositions were determined for the indicated 400 ISO (28 DIN) using an Autometer III Minolta light meter fitted with a 10° finder for selective measurements privileging the shadow areas and erected for the filter absorption if any.
The outside temperature was about 6°C with a bright sunny weather in the afternoon. Typically exposures outdoor were made at 1/250s with apertures ranging from f/8 to 11 and 1/50s or 1/25s at full aperture f/2 or f/2.8 indoor.
Basilique Notre-Dame de Fourvière***, December 24, 2024
69005 Lyon
France
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*** The Basilica of Notre-Dame de Fourvière is the work of the architects Bossan and Sainte-Marie Perrin. It was built from a public subscription in 1870 and consecrated in 1896. From the top of “the hill that prays”, the basilica dedicated to the Virgin Mary is classified as a historical monument. It is part of the Lyon site registered as a UNESCO World Heritage Site. Today, the emblem of the city of Lyon, the basilica welcomes more than 2.5 million pilgrims and visitors each year.
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After exposure, the film was processed in Adox Adonal (Agfa Rodinal) developper at dilution 1+25 and 20°C for 6 min. The film was then digitized using a Sony A7 body fitted to a Minolta Slide Duplicator installed on a Minolta Auto Bellows III with a lens Minolta Bellow Macro Rokkor 50mm f/3.5. The RAW files obtained were processed without intermediate files in LR and edited to the final jpeg pictures. All views of the film are presented in the dedicated album either in the printed framed versions and unframed full-size jpeg accompanied by some documentary smartphone Vivio Y76 color pictures.
About the camera and the lens :
This Leica M3 circa 1956 (Ref. Leitz ISUMO), double stroke, was sold to me with a Leitz Wetzlar Summicron collapsible normal lens 1:2 f=5cm of the same period equipped with a 39mm screw-on protective filter, a 42mm push-on Leica lens cap and an original Leitz shade hood (Ref. Leitz IROOA).
The camera was serviced in Paris, France, in 2018 by Gérard Métrot at Photo-Suffren, (a Leica boutique) who worked on the maintenance of camera's of famous French photographers as Henri Cartier-Bresson and Robert Doisneau. The camera was inspected by Odéon-Photo, Paris, another historic Leica place in Paris, in April 2024.
I sourced at the same time in Germany a stunning Leitz Leica leather bag (Ref; Leitz IDCOO) of the same model that appeared on the back cover page go the Leica brochure year 1954. This bag can accommodate the camera and a mounted Leica-Meter type M. The interior in covered with a carmin velvet in perfect condition.
The Leica M3 is one of the most iconic range-finder 35mm camera of the 50's and the 60's. It was produced in Wetzlar, Germany, in different versions at 226178 exemplars, between 1954 (n° 700000) and 1966 (n° 1164865, www.summilux.net/materiel/Leica-M3) . The Leica M3 was the result of the study of a "super-Leica" that was started before WWII and only achieved in the 50'S.
The greater improvement of the M3 compared the classical Leica's was in a magnificent and very complex range-finder combined to the view finder permitting the framing with the two eyes open, integrating the frame in the real and normal vision. The shutter integrates too the normal and the slow speeds in the same barillet. The film advance of this version of Leica M3 is also the typical "double-stroke" advance that was exclusive to the Leica M3 first versions.
The camera was transported to me from Paris to Lyon, France on April 26, 2024 and the bag arrived the day after.