View allAll Photos Tagged WASGcaving,
C:\Users\Bill Crowle\Pictures\Other Pictures\Slides\Box3 1966-68
I was missing the original....found… and scanned.
They were wonderful times.. sixty years ago…
“Can't find my log book at the moment but am sure I was in WASG then.” Says Geoff..
Here's a shot taken outside Calgardup Cave when we were trying to work out if carbide lamps would give enough light to drive back to the hut. Must have been summer 1967 as I'm caving in shorts. “
We hung our lamps on the front a couple of times so the acetylene fumes would stink out the car on the way back to camp at Boranup. Looks like Bruce on the left after some crawling in the mud… Geoff Moor supplied this historic photo to my Facebook today, 15th Sep. 2022. To add to my memory stream of comments and images from 1965.
Peter Bridge with camera watches on the right just in front of Mary in the clean white shirt.. she had rolled down her trogsuit…
Could be Stephen Janicke under the WASG helmet.
Terrible copy, doing a re-scan now 20-08-23 see below
Sent to me on Messenger by Geraldine… with thanks for her interest in my posts of #Troggonk on the #Nullarbor with Mary and Alex Baines at Weebubbie at Easter 1967. and #WASGcaving #roundAustraliawithSpelio
We were at Heatherbraes at Sallys Corner on our way home in Angela from the ACE 80th party at Julia's in Roseville on May 18, 2025.
See #318 on bighugelabs.com/scout.php
In all my 2-3 Million miles or kilometers of #FlickrSpelio #bushwalking, #SUSScaving, #WASGcaving, #RMLAIDForest life or #GSWANullarbor work, travel #roundAUstraliawithSpelio or in the UK or Europe in #Helga2004 , where I bought a #SAKTinker in Switzerland or in #mtus where I bought the #juiceS2, I never needed a #SAKedc or #Leatherman as I always had a couple of fully equipped toolboxes of #remotegearlist and a trusty #sheathknife....
A few wildflowers, some of the first ones I had ever noticed, in the Stirling Ranges, SW of WA
See wildflower reference database on ExploreOz. www.exploroz.com/Members/61493.375/11/2014/How_to_make_a_...
B2R26 Bluff Knoll
. #roundaustraliawithspelio in #UPR236 with my mate and Best Man, Ian Williams…
See WA on the AG site..
www.australiangeographic.com.au/travel/destinations/2015/...
Just posted these from the ebm using MS Edge to Rick's Flickr account. tagged speliofind and in..
www.flickr.com/photos/usarick/albums/72177720309938372
after we left Xmas at Twilight Cove...
We had porridge, according to my diary..
Toast and eggs and a brew! Packed the gear and I changed a tyre and tube on the LR #WAG9623, then packed the VW. Warm day. Gear all over the place…photos of junk. M packed. Sorted food and signed off at the bus. Byes, Rick was underground still taking photos & couldn’t get him on the phone. We drove to Madura 11, cleaned air cleaner & had couple of lemon squashes.
Left at 12 & passed plenty of west bound cars. My and I had fun on the drive. Eating lollies & choc. on way…..
We stopped and looked at the sand dunes at Eucla. Beautiful. Took photos.. see diary notes…
Drove to the motel then on to Koonalda. Hell of a noise from LHRear wheel. Stopped and jacked up and spun wheel a few times… thought torsion bar or axle had broken. Anyway kept going, worry, & to K. 10mi. Talked to Mr Gurney awhile, good bloke. Gas on further till 11.
Camped. Curled up in front of VW awhile……..
Lit a fire , woke up and made toast & coffee & then climbed into sleeping bag….
This is Dick's nice slide, he had his Dad's 35mm film camera for the trip.
He is at this moment copying slides with his Panasonic point n shoot, seems to work OK!
We were on our way to WA where I took up a new job with the WA Geol Survey, to assist in the mapping of the Eucla Basin, and all that limestone and caves!
See GSWA and WASG shots....
This Wiki article on the Eucla Basin needs updating.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucla_Basin
Now shared on Instagram #carbidelamp
OCR scan then tricky edit on the acer Laptop 19-03-24
HISTORY OF MULLAMULLANG
The first two references to the cave appear in Australian Speleological Federation News letter Ho.??SA (1964) In the first, 'Air Photographs of the Nullarbor'Plains Caves' by J.N. Jennings, an outline was given of his own work of stereoscopic examination of the most recent air photos of the Nullarbor and mention was made of similar work by D.C. Lowry in Western Australia.
Mention was made of the proposed expeditionary activity at that time which was the subject of the second Australian Speleological Federation article, Nullarbor Expedition 1963-64'. contributed by Sydney University Speleological Society. Using the air photograph coverage made available the expedition
found that one (doline) led to the Nullarbor's longest and deepest known cave. Named Mullamullang (because of the unusual quantities of dry sand found within), it comprises a single passage; about two miles long containing a number of small lakes or pools and seemingly countless 'mountains' of rocky detritus. More than 1 miles of the cave was mapped showing its deepest point to be 370 feet below the Plain.
The expedition report proposed by the Sydney University Speleological Society organisers in that article has not yet appeared.
The J.N, Jennings sketch maps and lists of doline occurrences including Mullamullang reached CEG(SA) as private correspondence in December 1963 and to Jennings we must attribute its discovery. Jennings' first-described location of the cave suggested, wrongly, that it was one of the Kestrel
Caves found earlier in 1963 by Lowry four miles north. The error is excusable when it is appreciated that all of Jennings' air photo work to this stage had been carried out in Canberra.
The credit for physically locating the cave must be given to P. Aitken of the South Australian Museum, a member of the 1963-64 Sydney University Speleological Society Expedition.
On the 9th January 1964 Aitken and a ground party located the cave from the air photo reference and it was entered for the
first time. The discovery has been described briefly in Walkabout (1965) and an excellent account of the visit has been written by E. Anderson in Helictite (1964) , together with a Grade 6 traverse map to White Lake (1.6 miles).
The cave name 'Mullamullang' and location names up to White Lake were named by the 1963-64 Expedition. Anderson with J.N. and J.G. Jennings returned to the cave briefly in January 1965 in an attempi to continue the survey. This was abandoned for want of time and support, but J.N. Jennings was able to commence a geomorphological examination of the cave.
During Easter 1965 the cave was again visited,
this time by Ian Williams leading five other Western Australian Speleological Group members. At the previous terminal point, D. Hoss discovered a way on which is now known as the drop-off. Ian phoned Bill in Sydney and as he was planning a trip to Perth in May to take up a new job with the GSWA he invited John D and Dick H to accompany him to N37. We took some rope and perhaps a ladder and descended the "Drop-Off" to discoverey another mile or so of massive passageway to the end at "The Dome". discovering and naming "The Junction" and "Lake Cigalere".
See diary image at the end of the comments.
from the book....
Mullumullang Cave Expeditions 1966
by CEGSA A.L.Hill
Occasional Papers N0.4
They only had round ones with a hole covers in icing.
Swiss Army Knife Recommendations...
youtu.be/-BJsULkEIrk?si=AX-OvS6iMjZlknQ-
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/kramerdesignstudio]
In all my 2-3 million miles or kilometres of #FlickrSpelio #bushwalking, #SUSScaving, #WASGcaving, #RMLAIDForest life or #GSWANullarbor work, travel #roundAUstraliawithSpelio or in the UK or Europe in #Helga2004, where I bought a #SAKTinker in Switzerland or in #mtus, where I bought the #juiceS2, I never needed a #SAKedc or #Leathermanedc as I always had a couple of fully equipped toolboxes of #remotegearlist and a trusty #sheathknife.
Found the one with the corkscrew that I bought in Switzerland, on our walk from #Helga2004….. It has no hole for a pin!
(do a Ctrl+R to refresh if you can't see the NOTES on screen)
It has WAC scratched beside the corkscrew on the side panel to the reamer…
VICTORINOX Swiss Army Knife Tinker red Medium Pocket Knife 1.4603 Red 35060 IS 90mm long…
$38.80 on eBay….
The Victorinox Tinker is one of the most popular best Swiss army knives out there. People often use it as their EDC knife and they generally like the balance between its toolset and carry ability.
It’s 3.6” long and weighs 2.2 oz. Its toolset features 12 stainless steel pieces, including a large/small stainless steel blade, Phillips screwdriver, can opener with a small flat screwdriver, bottle opener with a large flat screwdriver & wire stripper, reamer, tweezers, toothpick, and a key ring.
The tools are packed into 2 layers, which gives it a slimmer appearance.
And see Classic SD Alox for the SAK now I have bought one on eBay, $49.95 smaller than I thought. 57mm long.. KRW 65,000
On its way, o4-03-23 arrived by Au Post 07-03-23 in slim envelope with a slip of a plastic case for the knife.
Now just received the #Alox 7.. 0.8150.26 27-06-23
Also shown here is my 1.3703 Climber red from Mister Minit Gungahlin 25/08/21 $69.75
This model would be nice...
www.ebay.com.au/itm/275699647039?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM...
The Swiss Army knife is a multi-tool pocketknife manufactured by Victorinox.[1] The term "Swiss Army knife" was coined by American soldiers after World War II after they had trouble pronouncing the German word "Offiziersmesser", meaning "officer’s knife".[2]
The Swiss Army knife generally has a drop-point main blade plus other blades and tools such as screwdrivers, a can opener, a saw blade, a pair of scissors, and many others. These are stowed inside the handle of the knife through a pivot point mechanism. The handle is traditionally a red color, with either a Victorinox or Wenger "cross" logo or, for Swiss military issue knives, the coat of arms of Switzerland. Other colors, textures, and shapes have appeared over the years.
Originating in Ibach, Switzerland, the Swiss Army knife was first produced in 1891 when the Karl Elsener company, which later became Victorinox, won the contract to produce the Swiss Army's Modell 1890 knife from the previous German manufacturer. In 1893, the Swiss cutlery company Paul Boéchat & Cie, which later became Wenger SA, received its first contract from the Swiss military to produce model 1890 knives; the two companies split the contract for provision of the knives from 1908 until Victorinox acquired Wenger in 2005. A cultural icon of Switzerland, both the design of the knife and its versatility have worldwide recognition.[3] The term "Swiss Army knife" has acquired usage as a figure of speech indicating extreme utility applicable to more or less any scenario at hand.
from en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Army_knife
Tools and components
The Victorinox Swisschamp consists of 8 layers with 33 functions and weighs 185 g.
Wenger Giant
Victorinox Swisschamp XAVT
There are various models of the Swiss Army knife with different tool combinations.
Though Victorinox does not provide custom knives, they have produced many different variations to suit individual users,[11] with the Wenger company producing even more model variations. [12]
Common Main Layer Tools:
Large blade - With 'VICTORINOX SWISS MADE' tang stamp on Victorinox blades (since 2005) to verify the knife's authenticity
Small blade
Nail file / nail cleaner
Scissors
Wood saw
Metal file / metal saw with Nail file / nail cleaner /
Magnifying lens
Phillips screwdriver
Fish scaler / hook disgorger / ruler in cm and inches
Pliers / wire cutter / wire crimper
Can opener / 3 mm slotted screwdriver
Bottle opener / 6 mm slotted screwdriver / wire stripper
Other Main Layer Tools:
LED light
USB flash drive
Hoof cleaner
Shackle opener / marlinspike
Electrician's blade / wire scraper
Pruning blade
Pharmaceutical spatula (cuticle pusher)
Cyber Tool (bit driver)
Combination tool containing cap opener / can opener / 5 mm slotted screwdriver / wire stripper
Back Layer Tools:
Corkscrew or Phillips driver
Reamer or Awl
Is this the most useless tool..?
youtu.be/MzHAgtb0JhQ?si=CtMPDfge2xChQdmS
Multipurpose hook
2mm slotted screwdriver
Chisel
Mini screwdriver (designed to fit within the corkscrew)
Keyring
Scale Tools:
Tweezers
Toothpick
Pressurized ballpoint pen (with a retractable version on smaller models, and can be used to set DIP switches)
Stainless pin
Digital clock / alarm / timer / altimeter / thermometer / barometer
Rivets and flanged bushings made from brass hold all machined steel parts and other tools, separators and the scales together. The rivets are made by cutting and pointing appropriately sized bars of solid brass.
The separators between the tools have been made from aluminium alloy since 1951. This makes the knives lighter. Previously these separating layers were made of nickel-silver.[18]
The martensitic stainless steel alloy used for the cutting blades is optimized for high toughness and corrosion resistance and has a composition of 15% chromium, 0.60% silicon, 0.52% carbon, 0.50% molybdenum, and 0.45% manganese and is designated X55CrMo14 or DIN 1.4110 according to Victorinox.[19] After a hardening process at 1040 °C and annealing at 160 °C the blades achieve an average hardness of 56 HRC. This steel hardness is suitable for practical use and easy resharpening, but less than achieved in stainless steel alloys used for blades optimized for high wear resistance. According to Victorinox the martensitic stainless steel alloy used for the other parts is X39Cr13 (aka DIN 1.4031, AISI/ASTM 420) and for the springs X20Cr13 (aka DIN 1.4021, but still within AISI/ASTM 420).[20][21]
The steel used for the wood saws, scissors and nail files has a steel hardness of HRC 53, the screwdrivers, tin openers and awls have a hardness of HRC 52, and the corkscrew and springs have a hardness of HRC 49.[20][citation needed]
The metal saws and files, in addition to the special case hardening, are also subjected to a hard chromium plating process so that iron and steel can also be filed and cut.[18][22]
Also have the Tinker Red 1.4603 Resin Scales..
Secret tools and uses.. youtu.be/AMWcziJezLQ?si=es3aBLaQjrZSOD8T
youtube.com/shorts/VUC6Atz4Du0?si=XGAQPdm9w-CvzzIv
The venerable Swiss Army Knife (SAK for short) is a jack-of-all-trades everyday carry tool that enjoys an irreplaceable status in people's loadouts, even if they do not consider themselves part of the everyday carry community, thanks to the SAK's hallmark mix of valuable features and tools in a compact size. With over a century of experience making quality tools and knives, Victorinox and Wenger (the sole two authorized makers of the Swiss Army Knife since the 1890s, and the latter acquired by Victorinox in 2005) have hundreds of SAKs for you to choose from.
Victorinox created the original SAK to meet an Army officer's knife requirement in the Swiss military. Their practicality means they've become a preferred multi-tool for decades now. They've also become instantly recognizable even to someone unfamiliar with everyday carry. They carry a SAK because MacGyver had one on TV, and then there's the fabled green SAK pulled out of a safe deposit bank vault by Jason Bourne.
With all the options available, we'll focus on what makes for a good, compact SAK for everyday carry: a competent knife, one or more screwdrivers, a can or bottle opener, and other essentials like a pair of scissors, tweezers, or even a toothpick. Armed with that knowledge, you can research further on your own and decide what your first (or next) Swiss Army Knife should be.
This post was last updated on 12/26/2023.
In all my 2-3 Million miles or kilometers of #FlickrSpelio #bushwalking, #SUSScaving, #WASGcaving, #RMLAIDForest life or #GSWANullarbor work, travel #roundAUstraliawithSpelio or in the UK or Europe in #Helga2004 , where I bought a #SAKTinker in Switzerland or in #mtus where I bought the #juiceS2, I never needed a #SAKedc or #Leatherman as I always had a couple of fully equipped toolboxes of #remotegearlist and a trusty #sheathknife....
Ian enjoys the view in the Stirling Ranges National Park, 1965 B2R26-29 now replaced with new scan 16/08/20
See YouTube on Nikon scanner.... m.youtube.com/watch?v=dBWNgtxMlY0
Ian Robert Williams 28 August 1938 - 22 November 2007
Ian changed my life by introducing me to the Kamerukas, (search here for KBC), and SUSS in 1962.
Thus began my life of caving and bushwalking, and led me to WA to meet Mary, a caver in WASG. We soon married, had four kids and seven grandkids, and have spent many years travelling around Australia.
Ian retired from the WA Geological Survey, GSWA, in 2007, but fell ill and passed on to higher realms in November... He will be sadly missed by many friends and family...
see link here for a few bushwalking areas...
www.australiangeographic.com.au/outdoor/18-best-day-walks...
See mag Time cover.. explorersweb.com/2015/09/22/time-magazine-modern-explorer...
see trip notes here.. www.flickr.com/photos/spelio/2384899586/
Some of the scanning I completed during 2020
We old Flickr members are wondering about the End of Life terms and how our data may be preserved..
www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/72157720581846435/7215772...
The "In memoriam" is a good idea, I hope it gets used.
www.flickr.com/search/people/?m=names&q=In%20memoriam
www.flickrhelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/4404071450516-In-Mem...
www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/72157720519776877/
Love the idea that my photos will be online forever, long after I'm dead. This is wonderful claim that Flickr should look to market more.
My Bestman at our wedding...
Long after Google and Facebook are gone it is nice to know that people will still be able to browse my Flickr photos 2,000 years from now.
C
Flickr Forever! Long Live Flickr!
www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/72157720581846435/7215772...d
We drove into the end first time on the 16th after leaving Madura at 3:30 sandwiches and removed a stick from the left tyre.
It was a low sink and low flat cave. "First in, in a car I'd say"
Out and lit fire. soup.steak. peas and spuds. Felt good and talked about school & Uni. Tech and jobs until 11:15.. Radio on & a Beautiful clear sky and full moon lit the night...
We woke at 7 on the 17th. (Never thought I would be at my wedding a year later on the 17th Dec 1966) (and back all over the Nullarbor to Twilight Cove in the VW in Dec this year, 1965)
I cleaned the plugs and adjusted the right-hand tappets. Drove the VW into the cave and took a couple of photos.
Did not remember two trips into the cave!! #flickrfeature
They also performed well in Antarctica… youtu.be/hqr7t7nBIVA?si=pUPH0Acu_xh7zjW0
Mine went well in the snow up to Charlottes Pass
.. #SAKedcs maybe the #SAKHuntsman beside me…. and my latest #Damast my #Pioneer X 3627 of 7000 Limited Edition.. See #SAK3627
and one of a couple of #SAKClimber models..
See the Album for more!
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/kramerdesignstudio]
In all my 2-3 million miles or kilometres of #FlickrSpelio #bushwalking, #SUSScaving, #WASGcaving, #RMLAIDForest life or #GSWANullarbor work, travel #roundAUstraliawithSpelio or in the UK or Europe in #Helga2004, where I bought a #SAKTinker in Switzerland or in #mtus, where I bought the #juiceS2, I never needed a #SAKedc or #Leathermanedc as I always had a couple of fully equipped toolboxes of #remotegearlist and a trusty #sheathknife.
"To me, photography is an art of observation.
It's about finding something interesting in an ordinary place...
I've found it has little to do with the things you see
and everything to do with the way you see them."
And the Pioneer X Alox www.victorinox.com/global/en/Products/Swiss-Army-Knives/M...
YouTube review youtu.be/FJpHoepfaQI?si=THQTr_MMtub3HZOK
The ideal tool for precision cutting
Swiss made pocket knife with 9 functions and high-grade Alox scales
Includes scissors and a reamer, punch
Item number 0.8231.26
Height 15 mm
Length 93 mm
Weight 94 g
See a discussion of the awl tool.
www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Reamer
The celebrated Alox scales have reached a near cult status, thanks to their unique surface which is pleasing to both hand and eye. The appeal of Alox is in its merging of aesthetics with functionality – its attractive embossed surface make the knife both lightweight and easy to grip, and the hardened oxide layer helps to protect against damage and corrosion.
After being punched from aluminum and embossed, Alox scales go through a process called Eloxal which uses anodic oxidation to create a protective layer. It is this final layer which allows for the coloring of the scales.
Alox has a strong significance in the history of Victorinox. First introduced for the Pioneer knife in 1957, Alox was a key feature of the Soldier’s Knife which was redesigned in 1961 and used until 2008. Today, we issue a Classic pocketknife with Alox scales in a different color every year. These limited edition knives are highly sought-after by design aficionados and collectors, showing the true timeless appeal of this iconic material.
A YouTube review of the Alox SAK Pioneers..
youtu.be/p4pM7ld9rS8?si=VPzWa3LOcgDVkA-4
And youtu.be/mzocdFiXE98?si=i4h38t20xWYOL9fY
I just discovered a new use for the saw blade..
It works well to comb my moustache!! Just after a little trim it sweeps out loose hair... see #emergencycomb …..
Why NOT to buy an Alox Farmer X
See youtu.be/EMitw2TW1Vc?si=Ll7Aj24kDQ7QCas2
From Google Bard…
Victorinox makes Alox knives using a process called **deep drawing**. Deep drawing is a metal forming process that uses a punch and die to create a three-dimensional shape from a flat sheet of metal.
The first step in making an Alox knife is to cut a sheet of aluminum to the desired size. The sheet is then placed in a deep drawing die, which has the shape of the knife's handle. The punch is then pressed into the sheet, forcing it to conform to the shape of the die.
Once the handle is formed, the blade is inserted into the handle. The blade is held in place by a rivet, which is pressed into the handle. The rivet is then peened, which is a process of hammering it to expand it and lock it in place.
The final step is to anodize the knife. Anodizing is a process that creates a protective layer on the surface of the metal. This layer helps to protect the knife from corrosion and wear.
Here are the steps in more detail:
1. **Cutting the sheet metal:** The first step is to cut a sheet of aluminum to the desired size. The sheet is typically 0.8mm thick.
2. **Deep drawing the handle:** The next step is to deep draw the handle. This is done by placing the sheet metal in a deep drawing die and then pressing it into the shape of the die with a punch.
3. **Inserting the blade:** Once the handle is formed, the blade is inserted into the handle. The blade is held in place by a rivet, which is pressed into the handle.
4. **Peening the rivet:** The rivet is then peened, which is a process of hammering it to expand it and lock it in place.
5. **Anodizing the knife:** The final step is to anodize the knife. Anodizing is a process that creates a protective layer on the surface of the metal. This layer helps to protect the knife from corrosion and wear.
The Alox knife is a popular choice for EDC knives because it is durable, lightweight, and corrosion-resistant. The deep drawing process used to make Alox knives ensures that they are strong and reliable. The anodizing process also helps to protect the knives from the elements.
down the side passage from the Junction..
Zoom in a few times..5368 x 3632 24-bit color
On the 1965-66 SUSS CEGSA Nullarbor Expedition
All the slides have very few descriptions.
Packed up, on the surface says my diary. Around the camp and mucked around till 2 & loaded & signed off at the bus.
My carried my 43lb pack to cave & we went down. x my bye D & J in at 2:30. Took photo of dune then thrashed on in…
Going well, sweating passed few people, ( sherpas), on their way out. On to the camp, above, at 7 or so. Made bed of rocks near Rick's then D & J to end of Mullamullang. Bruce and Glenn too. I last ,feet sore . photo of us at the end and then back to the Grotto.
photos of the gypsum & then swimming in the lake. Camp, swim & to bed, tea in bed & talked to Rick & Dick.
Great to be there with them, gave them fresh water.
They had record player going & it not bad.. to sleep about 12:30.
Notes from my diary of 05 Jan 1966 typed up here on 24-07-23
With some trog gear drying in the sun behind, after a wet trip in Easter Cave, I think, looking back from 2021
With a packet of Parsons One Minute Oats.. Mary remembers them, I didn't..
Ian has a pair of Paddy’s pot grabbers in his hand, perhaps melting some butter in his battered fry pan.
Looks like a small bottle of rum there and a jar of #Nescafe instant coffee on the bench...
#WASGcaving
Our first picnic lunch together, in 55 years... we met a few nights earlier at the WASG meeting after a slide show of NSW caving . I presented.
9-09-65, it is now 9-09-20 I then asked who wanted a lift down to the SW for a caving trip, Mary raised her hand, Ian said she is a nice girl, and the rest is history...
from C:\Users\Bill Crowle\Pictures\Other Pictures\Slides\Box2 1965-67
Mary was just 19 and I was 21…
Cheese and bickies together for the first time. I still have the sheath knife for travels…
Not far from the Deepdene Cliffs.. flic.kr/p/eaWJ69
Color Temperature up 30
Sharpness up 20 in Flickr Editor... 12-09-23 and cropped in.
which wrecked the skin tone!
Ian Williams 28 August 1938 - 22 November 2007
Ian changed my life by introducing me to the Kamerukas, (search here for KBC), and SUSS in 1962.
Thus began my life of caving and bushwalking, and led me to WA to meet Mary, a caver in WASG. We soon married, and have spent many years travelling around Australia.
Ian retired from the WA Geological Survey, GSWA, in 2007, but fell ill and passed on to higher realms in November... He will be sadly missed by many friends and family...
The name Bluff Knoll doesn't appear on the dumb Flickr maps until you zoom it past the other minor peaks shown....
See some research on the West Australian ones here..
www.sciencewa.net.au/topics/industry-a-resources/item/274...
A GROUP of geologists working for the #GSWA, Geological Survey of Western Australia has confirmed a long-standing belief that most of the Yilgarn Craton has a similar crustal architecture.
Structural geologist Ivan Zibra says they studied the Youanmi Terrane – named after the former gold town of Youanmi in the western goldfields – which constitutes the western portion of the Yilgarn Craton.
He says large shear zones are easily detectable from magnetic geophysical images that have been available for a long time.
“We corroborated the view proposed before,” he says.
“Many of the exposed shear zones transect the crust down to 35km, so they are large-scale structures affecting the whole craton.
“The new view is that we are dealing with a fairly homogenous craton-scale crustal architecture, in the order of 1000km in size.”
The Yilgarn bedrock dates from the Archean eon (4000–2500 million years ago) when molten magma cooled to become the earth’s crust.
Dr Zibra says more magma then deformed the solid crust, cracking and partially melting it as the hot molten material attempted to rise to the surface
See a Geology/Science website here.. austhrutime.com/australian_plate.htm
AS suggested by co-pilot today, 30-07-25.
Ah, you're after Ian R. Williams, the geologist known for his work in Western Australia—especially in the Yilgarn Craton, one of the oldest and most mineral-rich geological regions on Earth.
️ Ian R. Williams – Field Geologist of WA
Role: Geological Survey of Western Australia (GSWA)
Specialty: Archaean geology and regional mapping
Notable Work:
Co-compiled the Regional Interpretation Map of the Archaean Geology, Southeast Part of the Yilgarn Block (1976), a foundational map for understanding WA’s ancient crust
Contributed to geological studies of the Gregory Granitic Complex, Fortescue Group, and other Archaean formations
Legacy:
His mapping helped shape exploration strategies for gold and other minerals in WA
Often cited in studies of early continental crust and mineral deposits
If you’re diving into WA’s geological history or mineral exploration, Williams’ work is a goldmine—literally and figuratively. Want to explore the Yilgarn Craton’s secrets next?
WILLIAMS I.R 1960-- Geology of the Wisemans Creek district, central tablelands, NSW. Unpubl. B.Sc., Hons. thesis, Univ. Sydney.
from References of B.J.Watts
Department of Geology and Geophysics, Univesity of Sydney
[Read 26th March, 1969]
GEOLOGY OF THE MT. TENNYSON AREA, SOUTH OF YETHOLME, N.S.W.
So bloody stiff and hard to open just to get the blade out...
Aaaarrrghhh
In all my 2-3 million miles or kilometres of #FlickrSpelio #bushwalking, #SUSScaving, #WASGcaving, #RMLAIDForest life or #GSWANullarbor work, travel #roundAUstraliawithSpelio or in the UK or Europe in #Helga2004, where I bought a #SAKTinker in Switzerland or in #mtus, where I bought the #juiceS2, I never needed a #SAKedc or #Leatherman as I always had a couple of fully equipped toolboxes of #remotegearlist and a trusty #sheathknife.
Mary walking across the sand dunes at Twilight Cove. We had a delightful week and Xmas camping here with Dave and Jackie, before we were all married later in the year. . even had a tinned Xmas pudding with flies!
Probably the first photo of many thousands, and 100s of hours of video, I was to take over the next 56 years while following along several paces behind, or out of earshot, of Mary...
We had driven the Beetle down here and along the beach East & beyond the rocks. Washed it with water from Johnny's spear in the sand. I have the slide in a box! B2/32 all stored, damp free ready to rescue in case of fire.. #firesnearme 2019-20 New Year!
Tried to return on 29 Dec 67 in VW with Jen & Barry in their R4 but we didn't make it over the dunes. The first time, in 1965, we had the LandRover behind us in case of trouble, but a little push from the girls got us over OK.
One night, we slept amongst the dunes down towards the beach, so we would wake in time to get some sunrise shots. But as we still do now, we slept in!
Mary woke first, and before she saw the snake track in the sand beside me, she noticed my closed eyes filled with sand. The wind blew a little over night, as it does on the Nullarbor, and filled my eye sockets with fine white sand.
She gently woke me, with instructions, "Don't open your eyes!"
Dave and Jackie were all ready up and about back at the camp, by the time we returned.
We drove the Beetle along the beach to Kanidal Beach where we hosed it down with water pumped by Mary with the hand spear... maps.bonzle.com/c/a?a=p&p=22019&d=pics&cmd=sp
Picture site on Bonzle..
maps.bonzle.com/c/a?a=pic&fn=81qbic3i&s=3&src...
See some Beetle shots here.. www.flickr.com/photos/spelio/2174392966/
I must dig out the shot of the VW on the beach, and stranded on a dune, where we left it over-night!
See in the comments below for a later note! And see the map in the comments below!
or here... www.flickr.com/photos/spelio/3602560365/
There is an edited version showing better flesh tones and the white sand..
B2R32-13 Twilight copy
replaced with cropped original 15-04-14
C:\Users\BillMary\Pictures\Other Pictures\Slides\Box2 1965
Mary took this shot..on the WASG, Western Australian Speleological Group, trip with my 35mm Pentax SV
I still have the hat and the carbide lamp! The beard is longer!
Replaced by C:\Users\Bill Crowle\Pictures\Other Pictures\Slides\Box3 1966-68 1500dpi 1872 Y axis 20-08-23
B3R45-37Bill Portrait copy Buddy icon now I use it for my addiction here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flickr#Accounts
Old WASG and CRC speleo from Exmouth www.flickr.com/photos/kth_friend/4076895501/
search here by using Ctrl+F for key words you are looking for..
Reference metadata copyright.. www.controlledvocabulary.com/socialmedia/
flickr testbed image www.flickr.com/photos/15731269@N00/4143198617/
spreadsheet on-line showing results of uploading metadata....
spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tceeIYNw8ZDC0N52UgRcgnA&a...
Copyright link www.sciencealert.com.au/opinions/20122702-23165-2.html
Copyright discussion on Old Photos not taken by you! www.flickr.com/groups/historicandoldphotos/discuss/721576...
Copyright discussion..
We receive a large number of enquiries and these often highlight a number of common misconceptions and misunderstandings about copyright law. The following attempts to dispel the ‘top 10’ copyright myths.
www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/copyright_myths
More discussion, informed and maybe ill-informed on copyright law and if flickr cares...
www.flickr.com/groups/historicandoldphotos/discuss/721576...
An article on the status and future of Flickr, are we worried?? I am, when I think about the time and effort we have put into creating our photo databases, with all the links and comments. I really hope Flickr survives me!
www.nytimes.com/2011/01/31/technology/31flickr.html?_r=1
Other than the recent support on Twitter, Yahoo’s top executives have barely mentioned Flickr publicly for some time. Few top executives actually have a public Flickr account.
No one questions Flickr’s appeal to photographers who post, admire and comment on a wealth of artistic images, many of which are magazine quality. Where Flickr is faltering is with people who want to store and share more mundane snapshots.
A Blog on what Flickr can do for you..
planetbotch.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/flickr-vs-photo-blog-...
Convenient for sharing with friends, Facebook offers free unlimited storage and an increasingly competitive product..... But a pain for photos and ease of adding comments, and no searching for MetaData.
How much data should I ....keep or delete
To see if you have managed to be on Explore, on the Flickr home page, use this link.
Scout bighuge explore bighugelabs.com/scout.php?username=spelio&sort=date&a...
Just found this App www.flickr.com/groups/1160997@N20/?added=3 from a shot by
Sidath Senanayake aka haelio who developed fluidr.
www.flickr.com/people/sidaths/
This app allows you to select a date for Explore images, and if it has a higher enough number it should appear without too much scrolling!
This page contains many tips to myself
flickr now has 6,000,000,000 images 6 Billion!
blog.flickr.net/en/2011/08/04/6000000000/
See a discussion on the explore algorithm and gaming explore..
www.flickr.com/help/forum/100608/?search=Flickr+central
See from a link below..
I don't understand why Flickr tech group hasn't introduced human computation concepts to its tagging strategy. Name comes to mind and starts with a "C" and ends with a "APCHA" and how Google used this to tag images in search. No offence, but images are binary data and you are trying to apply computation learning - which is nowhere near accurate, despite any AI models. Anyway, combination of human computational game theory into image identification and using our mushy brains for something that silicon cannot in the same fashion. Cognitive learning, man. You are so behind the learning curve.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrhAbZGkW8k
Preserve Flickr/SmugMug for ever....
www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/72157720519776877/
When Flickr was acquired by SmugMug in 2018, it was a mission of preservation: our tens of billions of photos, hundreds of millions of photographers, and millions of thriving communities were coming dangerously close to not existing online, and that was unacceptable. So we joined forces with SmugMug, and we’re all the stronger for it.
Today we’re announcing some upcoming changes to our Terms of Service that will help us continue to preserve the art, expression, history, stories, and memories of all Flickr members for the next hundred years. These changes fall into two distinct buckets, and will affect Flickr free members. The first change relates to restricted and moderate content. (You might call it NSFW, or explicit, or other terms, but we’ve gone ahead and defined them for Flickr here... www.flickr.org/
From the www.adventureshop.com.au Kirrawee NSW $39.00
I paid $49.95 from them on eBay!! "Free postage??"
0.6221.26 Swiss Army Knife from Victorinox
It travels #roundAustraliawithSpelio on my car keys..
In all my 2-3 Million miles or kilometers of #FlickrSpelio #bushwalking, #SUSScaving, #WASGcaving, #RMLAIDForest life or #GSWANullarbor work, travel #roundAUstraliawithSpelio or in the UK or Europe in #Helga2004 , where I bought a #SAKTinker in Switzerland or in #mtus where I purchased the #juiceS2, I never needed a #SAKedc or #Leatherman as I always a couple of fully equipped toolboxes of #remotegealist; and a trusty #sheathknife....
see www.victorinox.com/global/en/Products/Swiss-Army-Knives/A...
A testament to the Victorinox commitment to durability, strength and engineering, our Alox pocket knives showcase pioneering scales in form and functionality. Punched from embossed aluminum,(sic) the scales are then treated with a process known as ‘anodic oxidation’ to create an additional protective layer to prevent damage and corrosion. These pocket knives will go the distance, for years to come.
Rivets and flanged bushings made from brass hold all machined steel parts and other tools, separators and the scales together. The rivets are made by cutting and pointing appropriately sized bars of solid brass.
The separators between the tools have been made from aluminium alloy since 1951. This makes the knives lighter. Previously these separating layers were made of nickel-silver.[18]
The martensitic stainless steel alloy used for the cutting blades is optimized for high toughness and corrosion resistance and has a composition of 15% chromium, 0.60% silicon, 0.52% carbon, 0.50% molybdenum, and 0.45% manganese and is designated X55CrMo14 or DIN 1.4110 according to Victorinox.[19] After a hardening process at 1040 °C and annealing at 160 °C the blades achieve an average hardness of 56 HRC. This steel hardness is suitable for practical use and easy resharpening, but less than achieved in stainless steel alloys used for blades optimized for high wear resistance. According to Victorinox the martensitic stainless steel alloy used for the other parts is X39Cr13 (aka DIN 1.4031, AISI/ASTM 420) and for the springs X20Cr13 (aka DIN 1.4021, but still within AISI/ASTM 420).[20][21]
The steel used for the wood saws, scissors and nail files has a steel hardness of HRC 53, the screwdrivers, tin openers and awls have a hardness of HRC 52, and the corkscrew and springs have a hardness of HRC 49.[20][citation needed]
The metal saws and files, in addition to the special case hardening, are also subjected to a hard chromium plating process so that iron and steel can also be filed and cut.[18][22]
From Google Bard..
Victorinox makes Alox knives using a process called **deep drawing**. Deep drawing is a metal forming process that uses a punch and die to create a three-dimensional shape from a flat sheet of metal.
The first step in making an Alox knife is to cut a sheet of aluminum to the desired size. The sheet is then placed in a deep drawing die, which has the shape of the knife's handle. The punch is then pressed into the sheet, forcing it to conform to the shape of the die.
Once the handle is formed, the blade is inserted into the handle. The blade is held in place by a rivet, which is pressed into the handle. The rivet is then peened, which is a process of hammering it to expand it and lock it in place.
The final step is to anodize the knife. Anodizing is a process that creates a protective layer on the surface of the metal. This layer helps to protect the knife from corrosion and wear.
Here are the steps in more detail:
1. **Cutting the sheet metal:** The first step is to cut a sheet of aluminum to the desired size. The sheet is typically 0.8mm thick.
2. **Deep drawing the handle:** The next step is to deep draw the handle. This is done by placing the sheet metal in a deep drawing die and then pressing it into the shape of the die with a punch.
3. **Inserting the blade:** Once the handle is formed, the blade is inserted into the handle. The blade is held in place by a rivet, which is pressed into the handle.
4. **Peening the rivet:** The rivet is then peened, which is a process of hammering it to expand it and lock it in place.
5. **Anodizing the knife:** The final step is to anodize the knife. Anodizing is a process that creates a protective layer on the surface of the metal. This layer helps to protect the knife from corrosion and wear.
The Alox knife is a popular choice for EDC knives because it is durable, lightweight, and corrosion-resistant. The deep drawing process used to make Alox knives ensures that they are strong and reliable. The anodizing process also helps to protect the knives from the elements.
See an interesting sak blog here..
leaf-vics.com/usefull-materials/victorinox-scale-crosses
See another video on selecting SAKs
youtu.be/rvi2Wk7Rp7w?si=Oo4JOlFi3S6yMQ-u
see a demo of six Alox Swiss Army Knives here youtu.be/ofBP5Q67qvg?si=Wac4HD1PMdJLdpBT
Diary entry..
We arrived back from watching the sunset and moonlight over the ocean from in the Beetle on the sand dunes. It was earlier than we expected, 6:45am and only one up!
We had a cool breakfast and then set up all the wet caving gear out in the sun to dry. I took photos of this scene and the bunch of flowers Mry collected. (see below). We all mucked around in the sun and I climbed up onto the hut roof spread the clothes out to drive.
We drove over to "Strongs Cave" , I was in my good shorts, so carefully climbed in and we watched Duncan Merrilies excavating bones. We helped out a bit for an hour and then climbed out and had an orange in the sun, then drove and kidded our way back to the hut, got the clothes down and packed up the car full of caving gear and drove down to "Cosy Corner" beach. We ran along the rocks and sand & took photos of girls sun baking in 2 piece & bra. (sic) see below!
We went back and got a good L ready of bread, cheese, wine and fruit. We sat in the sun and sand talking, laughing and enjoying selves... see below..
"ran up and down the sandhills & rolled down"...etc etc..
We continued this on into the night in Kings Park Road, till Monday Morning! :-)
I filled up the diary pages, see a copy of the week opening here.. (just for me)
12-09-65 landscape setting on scanner.
A link to the modern WSG Website... www.wasg.org.au/
My shot has more of the roof taken from higher up on the rockpile!!
see below.
I tried some Kirkland flushable baby wipes of organic natural solution!
Most if not all the mould was on the soft emulsion side, so you have to wipe softly and quickly before the emulsion softens. If you then wipe with a lint-free cloth to remove all the wet wipe fibres stuck in the emulsion you can feel the cloth drag on the soft emulsion.
Let the slide dry and harden for a few minutes then hold the slide at a flat angle to a bright light and you can see the lint stuck to the emulsion and the non-emulsion side. The emulsion side of a Kodachrome slide is the side with the Kodak label.
You can then use the lint-free cloth to wipe or flip the fluff and fibres off.
You can see the fires change direction as you wipe. This can be done firmly and several times on the viewing side but be gentle on the other side, the emulsion side.
Before scanning, I use a soft makeup brush to remove any remaining dust and fibres, especially from an old Kodak cardboard mount.
See more and counter arguments and advice here...
from www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiei8gBZePI
Those of us who have been travelling a lot before the time of digital cameras may have a huge collection of mouldy slides 10-20 years old. Some websites advise using alcohol to wipe off the mould. I have a better way. The wetting agent in these wipes provides just the right amount of lubrication to clean off the mould in slides without scratching the film too much.
Chan Joon Yee
This is terrible advice for one reason. People will go out and buy alcohol. It will contain water. They'll forget about the 99.9 pure grade and just remember some video on the internet said to use alcohol and buy the cheaper 91% or 71% and not even notice even if they intended on buying the right stuff. Or even having the 99% pure they'll grab the wrong bottle on the shelf and use that by mistake. Believe me. I worked supporting a technical product and you wouldn't believe the stupid careless things people did. If all they sold was 99.9% pure alcohol then sure. Most places don't even stock 99.9% stuff. People will pick up whatever is available and call it a day. I absolutely, positively, guarantee this. No. Bad. Buy regular film cleaner. It isn't that expensive. Follow the directions. People cleaning 70 or 80 year old film likely know what they are doing or will research the film and use the right stuff as recommended by the manufacturer. Seasoned photographers will not watch this video because they already know how to clean film. This video will only attract new people who might not even have ever used film who want to scan something but not really know what they are doing. There are certain types of film that will be ruined using any type of cleaner. They will not know this. (Polachrome is one)
Read the disturbing proposal for near here...
First VW ( #VWBeetle65 ), to go caving, on the way back from the ASF Conference, we did a spot of caving, then on to N37. Only took a little manouvering around a few rocks and down the doline. The light is from the entrance behind, while the light in my hand is a Trog lamp, or Carbide lamp. This Beetle finally succumbed from sucking in too much bulldust from too many crossings of the Nullarbor!
Traded it for a new Kombi, see other images..
a better shot here www.flickr.com/photos/spelio/4651631201/
Looks like we drove in twice, and camped outside with a fire and a pleasant evening.. see diary here..
www.flickr.com/photos/spelio/49722045963/in/album-7215771...
See some historic images in the comments below
Did you collect some rock samples for the GSWA Dave?
tags
Kodachrome film scan "Polaroid Scanner"
4000dpi 3200dpi "Polaroid SprintScan 35mm 50mm Pentax SilverFast
"Western Australia" "Jan 05
1966" WA SUSS WASGcaving Mullamullang N37 CEGSA
On The West side of the Northern end of Cape Range
P9253318
We drove up a very rough 4WD Low Range track over limestone and gullys, then a few 100m walk and scramble across and up to the cave. We heard about it from some local who said there was a cave with Aboriginal paintings on the walls. They were long gone by the time we got there, or in the wrong cave!
Only cave we did this trip, see our last trip....
www.flickr.com/photos/spelio/214996016/
From an old email from Mal East.
Hello Bill, and Mary,
nice to hear from you. I was wondering when somebody from WASG would comment on my guest book entry.
I would have liked to have gone to the 50 year party in 2008, but I didn't know it was on. I would have liked to have
caught up with a few of the old cavers. Would've been fun reminiscing.
I looked at your Cape Range shot, and by the look of that karst, I'd say you were parked close to C-4 The Owl Roost.
(S22 10.961 E113 59.162 if you want to have a look in Google Earth) Very 60's with the floral dress and Kombi. :-)
Caves near Shark Bay on Cape Range National Park?? Umm, Shark Bay and Cape Range National Park are a long way apart from each other.
As for your subject line - so where was the Cave on Cape Range that you spoke about - you mean you haven' t heard of Wanderers?
Okay, well it's numbered C-163 and was discovered by my best friend Ray Wood on the 23rd of August 1987, hence my post about it being
23 years ago that we found it. Back then, Ray and I along with Hugh (Tom) Tomlinson were the only cavers in Exmouth/Cape Range.
Ray was out wandering around checking out promising sinkholes on that day by himself. I should have been with him but I was getting the
Karst Index up to date that day on my computer. Yes I had a computer back then, not many other people did though.
Ray found a huge hole that was quite deep and decided to call it "Wanderers Delight" as he'd been wandering around when he found it
and was delighted to have found a nice big entrance. :-) Cheesy huh? He found it so I let him name it as he saw fit.
Brian Vine (I guess you know him?) taught me my caving skills in '84 and when he left Exmouth to live down in Perth in Easter '86, Ray Wood
and I became good friends and started caving together. We had lots of fun in those days. Brian got me to take on the Karst Index after he
left. It was a hell of a mess and a big job but I got it all sorted out eventually. I passed it on to Darren Brooks when I left Exmouth in late '88.
The Karst Index was up to about 450+ caves at the time. I've heard it's over 700 caves and Karst features now.
Wanderers is on the eastern side of the Well 3 track about 2kms south of Mt Hollister. It's a 5 level cave and the deepest point is about 65m
and has over 7kms of horizontal passage nowadays. Impressive cave! Ray, Tom and I had many great trips into Wanderers in '87 and '88.
Plenty of fauna and water in Wanderers. Schizomus vinei, amphipods, maturgids, scutigerids, etc etc.
Yes, the 'vinei' part of the name is right. It was named after Brian. I have a millipede called Austrocthonius easti named after me.
Ray Wood and Darren Brooks both have an insect named after them as well. That was a nice gesture from Dr. Bill Humphreys of the WA
museum. He mounted a WA Museum trip for 3 months during 1989. That was a fantastic time.
Anyway, hope all that helps your curiosity somewhat.
I still miss caving dearly and think of my adventures quite often even years later. I wish digital cameras had been around back in the late
80's. I would've taken a ton of photos. I wish Google Earth and GPS ad PDA's were around back then too, as well as LED lights! Sigh.
We did things the hard way with a Suunto compass and rock cairns and 50 thou topo maps. (They'd only just come out in 86.)
I got very good at orienteering as I always thought, "If you can navigate on Cape Range, you can navigate anywhere!" :-)
They use LED headlamps and laser pointers nowadays. Oh how I wish we had them back then, surveying would have been so much easier!
I could talk all night about caving, so I'd better sign off.
Cheers!
This is very remote, and not for the faint hearted without proper maps, or GPS and remote gear.
The drive in #Smoky60Series from Zanthus to Balladonia is 185km and took us one half days in the dust. 35-37psi in the BFGoodrich tyres, which could have been at 30. See many onscreen NOTES..
I had worked all over this area in 1965 for several months and knew where we were!
See here for a shot of the GSWA Land Rover in a donga somewhere around Balladonia,,,,,
www.flickr.com/photos/spelio/4618161170/
We had a search once for the lost bus driver on the SUSS Nullarbor expedition in 1964, he had the sense to just walk South dragging a stick! You just head North or South and you will either hit the Trans Line or the Eyre Highway....
It is covered on the Hema GDT maps, plus we had the GA 1:250,000 maps of Australia on the laptop.
S31°18'23" E123°42'50"
another bush camp further SE www.flickr.com/photos/spelio/4710136249/in/photostream/
type Ctrl+F to search for items in the list!
see also www.exploroz.com/On_the_Road/Cooking_Equipment.aspx for Aussies
These comments are difficult to read and enjoy squashed up in the NEWUI BETA white text on black.. Read it all on an iPad in the meantime before Yahoo screw it up!
Now if you are lucky to have Fred or the NNPE, enjoy!
see some more outback tracks recommended by Australian Geographic Magazine, not much serious detail there though!
www.australiangeographic.com.au/travel/destinations/2014/...
Some 4WD travels web site adventures.net.au/About/about.php
Here is a list of gear and tips by Dossier 48... on wordpress.
dossier48.wordpress.com/other-stuff/
A comment on .. www.flickr.com/photos/something2see/15429939891/in/photos...
we carry enough fuel, diesel, for 1200km and several days... www.flickr.com/photos/spelio/5115389143/
Wheels tyres, water, tools, patches, winch, spade, tow rope, snatch strap, you name it!
Here is another extensive camp gear list...
familyfriendlyozcamping.com.au/extensive-camping-checklis...
See an RV Checklist here.. changingears.com/rv-checklist-inspection.shtml
In all my 2-3 million miles or kilometres of #FlickrSpelio #bushwalking, #SUSScaving, #WASGcaving, #RMLAIDForest life or #GSWANullarbor work, travel #roundAUstraliawithSpelio or in the UK or Europe in #Helga2004, where I bought a #SAKTinker in Switzerland or in #mtus, where I bought the #juiceS2, I never needed a #SAKedc or #Leatherman as I always had a couple of fully equipped toolboxes of #remotegearlist and a trusty #sheathknife.
Standard scan setting
We went everywhere #roundAustraliawithSpelio in the #UPR236 on #WASGcaving trips to the SW and the #Nullarbor until 1968 when we got #KombiSplity
This was Monday 4thDec 1967.
Carrying 16gallons of fuel along the corrugations at 50mph and down to 30 on really rough stuff. Passed the new US cattle farms. 70 mi out got smooth sand. Photos 26mi from Mt Ragged.
Passed Al the spot I knew from 1965 and found the track down to Israelite Bay. Sandy soft track as we continued to a spot N of a bend and backed into trees S of the foot of Mt. R. We set up tent & had lunch. M went to sleep with headache while I greased the car and air cleaner till 5.
Chased bees away and lit fire. See nearby campsite photo. And diary shenanigans..
Had Hawaiian style tea, rice, dishes and to bed 7:30!
On Jun 28, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Bill & Mary wrote:
I got stuck on two beaches in WA, in my Beetle when I was young and silly and took it Mary and me a little pushing and digging, but it was dry sand.
One night I was stuck at Pelican Point at Nedlands on the way to pick up Mary for a date! She didn't realised then what she had to look forward to...
On a date into the Darling Ranges I was wheel spinning in a muddy track with Mary pushing. She got her white slacks a little spattered ....
Must dig out the old photos one day. Another time the VW was stuck in soft sand south of Madura, trying to get to the coast with Mad Dog and Rick..
Mary and I got stuck at night getting back from the beach at Twilight Cove in 1965..
We returned next morning with the LandRover...
We had all the passengers pushing the Kombi along a soft sandy road back from the coast and some caves in WA, we pushed Dad's Vanguard, up a muddy road while they were O/S, in 1964, on a SUSS trip into Cliefden Caves, with Venita and Dick!
There are a few more, which I must document when I get onto a real keyboard.
Must have bought our new PaddyMade tent in WA.. for a short first weekend #roundaustraliawithSpelio trip
At one of our three highest campsites in Australia…
2 years after we met...
from B3R47-37 Toolbrunupl 9-9-67
South of Caiguna B2R24-26cliff cut
See ExplorOz track notes, May 2009
www.exploroz.com/TrekNotes/SouthCoast/Nuytsland_Nature_Re...
Dave and I traversed all this country a number of times in '65, and I have some fond memories of all of the Nullarbor, just search my stream for Nullarbor...
noted 34mths after the comment below! 29/5/09
See also wasg.iinet.net.au/nulla.html for a bit about the Nullarbor limestone.
"In 2005, The Wilderness Society nominated the Nullarbor Plain for protection under South Australia’s Wilderness Protection Act. The nomination recognised the cultural significance of the region to its traditional owners.
Widely acclaimed for outstanding natural and cultural heritage values, the Nullarbor is the largest semi-arid karst cave system in the world."
Bunda cliffs now protected as a result of Wilderness Society and other's pressure...
www.wilderness.org.au/campaigns/outback-australia/histori...
See old exploration map here..
www.explorationswa.com.au/people/
See an informative blog here about Eyre's crossing here...
www.nullarbornet.com.au/themes/edwardJohnEyre.html
Nullabor plain
janhawkinsau.wordpress.com/2015/03/02/the-oondiri-travell...
The Nullabor, the name has always irritated me because it is such an enigma to what you actually find. The vast ancient region was named in August 1865, while an explorer was travelling from the east across the Hampton Tablelands, along the most arid of sections. E. A. Delisser in his journal named both the Nullabor and Eucla. This was how the largest limestone karst in the world received its European name. Its meaning is found in the Latin Nullus Arbor (It seems Delisser spelt it Aus’ style) the meaning is however ‘No trees/plants’. This is simple a misconception as the vast region is most certainly not treeless.
To the tribal aboriginal people, the vast plain was known as the Oondiri, meaning a waterless plain, as surface water is not easily found across the ancient karst of limestone. This limestone karst is the largest in the world. It was formed 40 million years ago when the Australian continent broke away from Antarctica and it is also very unstable.
Baxter Cliffs..
Now we have to get down and climb Bluff Knoll!..
Two years after we met.
Early #roundAustraliawithSpelio image...
B2R37-33 Mary cut
This is the Christmas trip in 1967 with Ted Rogers and the Muirs...
see story link below.. also took photos here on 6th Jan 1966 Reading diary 01-01-22
We chucked rocks into the clear water below her!
This is under the Roe Plain, below the main Nullarbor Plain and the escarpment past Madura Pub. all WRONG...
Mary was recently, 2022, reading about the McCombs, who lived next door in Claremont.
Mary babysat the boys while all the parents played bridge with a window open so Mary would bang on a kero tin to attract their attention if she needed help!
www.surgeons.org/member-services/in-memoriam/harold-mccomb/
Just a note!
Nullabor plain
janhawkinsau.wordpress.com/2015/03/02/the-oondiri-travell...
The Nullabor, the name has always irritated me because it is such an enigma to what you actually find. The vast ancient region was named in August 1865, while an explorer was travelling from the east across the Hampton Tablelands, along the most arid of sections. E. A. Delisser in his journal named both the Nullabor and Eucla. This was how the largest limestone karst in the world received its European name. Its meaning is found in the Latin Nullus Arbor (It seems Delisser spelt it Aus’ style) the meaning is however ‘No trees/plants’. This is simple a misconception as the vast region is most certainly not treeless.
To the tribal aboriginal people, the vast plain was known as the Oondiri, meaning a waterless plain, as surface water is not easily found across the ancient karst of limestone. This limestone karst is the largest in the world. It was formed 40 million years ago when the Australian continent broke away from Antarctica and it is also very unstable.
We found our way to Kestrel Cave with Mary on the roof of the VW looking out for it… there is a photo..
Diary entry..
Roaches Rest cave, according to my diary entry of 27th Dec. 1967, we drove to Kestrel Cave in #UPR236 with Mary on the roof, there is a photo, on a NW track 14miles & N 10 mi. Bea a grassy track. Mary and I on for 4mi. to pinpoint position & drove back & found faint track and led others along to "Roaches Rest" . My fnd. it by watching birds go in. I nearly did. We had L there & went in & look for 3/4 hour. Photos, hurried others up & John & I dashed off 3:15. We followed N & W along track 20-30mph at about 4 hit a rock with the gearbox & put a hole in it 3" long with oil rushing out.
. #Roundaustraliawithspelio
All the Genius images now added to the Greg Williamson Group…
On the 1965 SUSS CEGSA Nullarbor Expedition (I Think)
All the slides have very few descriptions.
A long story.. see the SUSS ASF trip notes diary I made.
My Beetle, and me, in Madura South Cave on the way back from the ASF Conference in WA in 1965. VW Australia said they had enough images for ads like this!!
The Beetle crossed the unsealed Nullarbor 5 times from Dec 1964 to Dec 1965...
From a C41 scan.
See also neg scan www.flickr.com/photos/spelio/303224373/
and some more shots of this trip..
www.flickr.com/photos/spelio/2174392966/
See old exploration map here.
www.explorationswa.com.au/people/
B1R15-130 "Don't need no steeenking four wheeel drive" lol.
see below!
And see Nullarbor Karst in www.australiangeographic.com.au/travel/travel-destination...
Read the disturbing proposal for near Eucla...
Listen here to descriptions of early diving in this cave..
www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/conversations/stefan-eberha...
and discovery of ancient fossils like the thylacine..
As a subterranean ecologist, Stefan Eberhard has spent his working life transfixed by caves and the creatures that live inside them.
He began cave diving as as young man, and was part of a team which discovered a vast underwater cathedral inside Tasmanian's Junee cave system.
One of the greatest adventures of Stefan's working life has been inside the caves which lie under the nullarbor plains, called Dolines.
They are big enough to park three trains side by side, and the water is so clear it's invisible.
The race to explore the Nullarbor's dolines took off in earnest in the 1980s, when teams of Australian and French cave divers began using underwater scooters and hand-made rafts to plummet further and further into their depths.
Further information
Learn more about Stefan's work here
www.subterraneanecology.com.au/about/dr-stefan-eberhard-b...
Dr Stefan Eberhard BSc, MSc, PhD has been exploring and researching caves for 40 years, and is one of Australia’s leading researchers in the fields of speleology and subterranean ecology. In the 1980’s, with other members of the Tasmanian Caverneering Club, he spearheaded the exploration and mapping of numerous deep caves including three Australian caving depth records. He is an experienced cave diver, rock climber and mountaineer and has participated in numerous expeditions in Australia and other countries. He has a deep and holistic appreciation of environmental systems and processes, and enjoys sharing his knowledge and understanding with others through presentations, photography and video.
Stefan completed his BSc and MSc at University of Tasmania in 1987, and PhD at Murdoch University in 2004, where he applied the emerging discipline of ecohydrology to studying groundwater decline driven by climate change and its impact on threatened stygofauna.
Stefan's research interests include caves and karst, groundwater ecology, subterranean fauna, conservation management. His other interests include diving, photography and filming and over the years he has been involved in several film documentary projects in caves. In recent years Stefan has upgraded his diving qualifications to include mixed gas rebreather to 100 meters depth and he is currently involved with exploring and filming deep ocean reefs in Tasmania and underwater caves on the Nullarbor Plain.
Stefan is the Director of Subterranean Ecology Pty Ltd, a scientific and environmental consulting company he founded in 2006. He is an Adjunct Affiliate at the University of New South Wales (Connected Waters Initiative Research Center) and a Research Associate with the Western Australian Museum.
Stefan became affiliated with University of New South Wales (Connected Waters Initiative Research Centre) in 2014 and collaborated on an exciting research project investigating the ecology and biogeochemistry of the hyporheic zone of streams in northern New South Wales and southeast Queensland. This two year research project funded by the Department of Environment helped to inform the assessment of ecohydrological responses to coal seam gas extraction and coal mining, especially the effect of groundwater drawdown on stream ecology.
Prior to undertaking his PhD Stefan was employed at the Western Australian Museum, and before this he was employed by the New South Wales National Parks & Wildlife Service to survey and assess cave fauna across that state. Prior to this he was employed by the Tasmanian government and University of Tasmania on various projects involving caves, karst and subterranean fauna.
with fantastic images from.. the 1995 Cocklebiddy Expedition..