flickr black day
Flickr appears to wants to make a touch/tablet optimized site. That is fine, do that in the the flickr Apps, don't force that on everyone. What they have done to commenting reduces the ability to interact with your contacts in favor of near full screen images and short superficial commenting. If the new version of Flickr is even similar to the current beta, Ipernity is going to become a lot more popular. I guess I need to remember my login info. Add me as a contact over there just in case. I don't want to leave flickr, but may be forced to.
Be sure to vote for and comment on the flickr beta forum:
yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/230781-flickr-photo-page-beta
I am sure new flickr will still look terrible, but with enough feedback it may still be usable for people who want to have meaningful discussion with our contacts. Flickr is listening to the minor issues posted on that forum, but they seem convinced new flickr will be black and all user interaction will be on the side of the screen. It doesn't take much time to vote, commenting isn't required. But please do something to show flickr this is a bad idea. This protest alone won't show them they are going in the wrong direction. Voting on the issues might.
Hardly anyone liked the last change, but this change will make that look like nothing. If flickr goes through with this Enhanced Photo Experience, there will be nothing left of the service we love. Flickr beta is not a photo service I want to be part of. Its likely that a huge portion of flickr's users don't care about commenting and real user interaction, but those of us who do are what keep flickr active. Without us, flickr will be nothing but a photo storage site. Every other site is pushing the social aspect and flickr is removing it.
Instead of perfecting the design of their sites with small improvements over time, Yahoo likes to completely change designs frequently. Yahoo Mail changes about every 6 months and upsets and confuses users ever time and always introduces new bugs. Even Yahoo employees prefer not to use Yahoo webmail. Every Yahoo mail user I know complains about the frequent changes. Yahoo needs to understand we don't want a constantly changing flickr. Improvements are necessary too keep up with competitors, but change for the sake of change is not. If we wanted that much change, we would be using the competitors instead of flickr.
The end of Pro users accounts was certainly done to bring them more ad revenue, but those of us who paid were some of the most active users. We create the content and viewer traffic they hope to make money on. Community interaction is what drives many of us to continue posting new work. Stuffing all the user interaction into the corner of the screen will discourage interaction. Kill the community and this will just be a place to dump your memory card when it gets full. Most people could never fill up 1 terabyte of space.
A few of the problems with New Experience Flickr:
Pressing enter submits comments and creating new lines requires Shift+Enter.
New lines (paragraphs) are not displayed in comments.
Comment area to type or read is tiny (twitter like).
Comments don't display images anymore.
Comments are displayed in reverse order (newest at the top).
Only the most recent few comments are displayed.
Long comments must be clicked on to read the whole thing.
Only short description is visible until clicking for more.
Hashtags #allruntogether instead of just normal readable tags (trying to be trendy).
It is hard to see who has favorited your photo.
You can't see group invitations anymore.
Admins can't do group invites anymore.
The add to groups popup only lets you scroll through the groups (no search).
Following instead of Contacts (more copying the trendy young sites).
The huge photos and heavy javascript are bad for slow connections.
flickr black day
Flickr appears to wants to make a touch/tablet optimized site. That is fine, do that in the the flickr Apps, don't force that on everyone. What they have done to commenting reduces the ability to interact with your contacts in favor of near full screen images and short superficial commenting. If the new version of Flickr is even similar to the current beta, Ipernity is going to become a lot more popular. I guess I need to remember my login info. Add me as a contact over there just in case. I don't want to leave flickr, but may be forced to.
Be sure to vote for and comment on the flickr beta forum:
yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/230781-flickr-photo-page-beta
I am sure new flickr will still look terrible, but with enough feedback it may still be usable for people who want to have meaningful discussion with our contacts. Flickr is listening to the minor issues posted on that forum, but they seem convinced new flickr will be black and all user interaction will be on the side of the screen. It doesn't take much time to vote, commenting isn't required. But please do something to show flickr this is a bad idea. This protest alone won't show them they are going in the wrong direction. Voting on the issues might.
Hardly anyone liked the last change, but this change will make that look like nothing. If flickr goes through with this Enhanced Photo Experience, there will be nothing left of the service we love. Flickr beta is not a photo service I want to be part of. Its likely that a huge portion of flickr's users don't care about commenting and real user interaction, but those of us who do are what keep flickr active. Without us, flickr will be nothing but a photo storage site. Every other site is pushing the social aspect and flickr is removing it.
Instead of perfecting the design of their sites with small improvements over time, Yahoo likes to completely change designs frequently. Yahoo Mail changes about every 6 months and upsets and confuses users ever time and always introduces new bugs. Even Yahoo employees prefer not to use Yahoo webmail. Every Yahoo mail user I know complains about the frequent changes. Yahoo needs to understand we don't want a constantly changing flickr. Improvements are necessary too keep up with competitors, but change for the sake of change is not. If we wanted that much change, we would be using the competitors instead of flickr.
The end of Pro users accounts was certainly done to bring them more ad revenue, but those of us who paid were some of the most active users. We create the content and viewer traffic they hope to make money on. Community interaction is what drives many of us to continue posting new work. Stuffing all the user interaction into the corner of the screen will discourage interaction. Kill the community and this will just be a place to dump your memory card when it gets full. Most people could never fill up 1 terabyte of space.
A few of the problems with New Experience Flickr:
Pressing enter submits comments and creating new lines requires Shift+Enter.
New lines (paragraphs) are not displayed in comments.
Comment area to type or read is tiny (twitter like).
Comments don't display images anymore.
Comments are displayed in reverse order (newest at the top).
Only the most recent few comments are displayed.
Long comments must be clicked on to read the whole thing.
Only short description is visible until clicking for more.
Hashtags #allruntogether instead of just normal readable tags (trying to be trendy).
It is hard to see who has favorited your photo.
You can't see group invitations anymore.
Admins can't do group invites anymore.
The add to groups popup only lets you scroll through the groups (no search).
Following instead of Contacts (more copying the trendy young sites).
The huge photos and heavy javascript are bad for slow connections.