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Thorpe Green War Memorial 1914 - 1916

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Thorpe St Andrews - River Green memorial

 

1914

 

Lt W H G Dods

 

(Probably)

Name: DODS, WILLIAM HENRY GORDON

Rank: Lieutenant Regiment/Service: Leicestershire Regiment Unit Text: 1st Bn.

Age: 22 Date of Death: 21/10/1914

Additional information: Son of Maj. William Sandars Dods (Norfolk Regt.) and Eurice Alice Gordon Dods, of "Glengariff," Roundham Rd., Paignton, Devon.

Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 4. Memorial: PLOEGSTEERT MEMORIAL

 

www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=1642605

 

Norlink picture

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Norlink notes

 

Lieutenant Dods was from Thorpe St. Andrew. He died on October 21st 1914

See comments 1 and 3 below

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Cprl J Weeds

 

(Probably)

Name: WEEDS, JAMES

Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Royal Marine Light Infantry Unit Text: H.M.S. "Hawke."

Date of Death: 15/10/1914 Service No: CH/11520

Grave/Memorial Reference: 7. Memorial: CHATHAM NAVAL MEMORIAL

 

www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=3050344

No Picture

 

Naval Net notes

 

HMS Hawke, large cruiser of the "Edgar" class, (completed 1893, 7,350 tons, 2-9.2in and 10-6in guns, torpedoed and sunk in North Sea by German U.9, Oct 1914).

www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/hms_hawke.htm

 

The Edgar Class cruiser HMS Hawke saw service in World War One as converted depot ship for destroyers and submarines. HMS Hawke was torpedoed and sunk by U- 9 on the 15th October 1914, with the loss of 524 men. (only 70 survivors.)

 

The nineteenth “HAWK” was a 12-gun twin-screw cruiser, floated out at Chatham in 1891. She was of 7350 tons, 12,000 horse-power, and 20 knots speed. Her length, beam, and draught were 360ft., 60ft., and 24ft. In 1914 the “Hawke,” commanded by Captain Hugh P.E.T. Williams, was engaged in various operations in the North Sea, in connection with the war with Germany. On October 15th the “Hawke,” was successfully torpedoed by a German submarine. The “ Theseus,” which was in company, was unsuccessfully attacked at the same time. The “Hawke” sank in a few minutes, and unfortunately Captain Williams, 26 officers and 500 men were lost with the ship. Four officers and about 60 men were saved.

 

www.geocities.com/abbertonroh/sawkins.htm

 

H.M.S. Hawke was an old armoured cruiser operating as part of the 10th Cruiser Squadron assigned to the Northern Patrol. She had originally been launched at Chatham in 1891 and was one of the oldest ships still in service. H.M.S. Hawke was being used as a training ship and had many young cadets on board. She had been recommissioned in February 1913 with a nucleus crew and had come up to her full complement on the outbreak of war in August 1914. During September 1914, she had visited Lerwick.

On the fateful day she was in the northern waters of the North Sea with a similar ship, H.M.S. Theseus when they were attacked. They were operating on October 15th 1914 without a destroyer screen. Unfortunately they were slower than the submarine U9, which was tracking them. Their position was some 60 miles off Aberdeen. At the time, H.M.S. Hawke had just turned to intercept a neutral Norwegian collier.

The U-Boat Commander was Lieutenant Weddigen. He missed the Theseus with his first torpedo but unfortunately hit H.M.S. Hawke amidships near a magazine. The detonation was followed by a second terrific explosion, in which a large number of the crew were killed. The ship sank within 5 minutes and was only able to launch one ship's boat. Five hundred and twenty five perished, including Claude. Only the 49 men in the long boat were saved. They were picked up 3 hours later by a Norwegian steamer. H.M.S. Theseus was under strict Admiralty orders not to attempt to pick up survivors, as only several weeks earlier there had been a disaster. On that occasion, on the 22nd September, both H.M.S. Hogue and H.M.S. Cressy had also been torpedoed when going to pick up survivors from H.M.S. Aboukir. The submarine that had sunk these three ships had again been Lieutenant Otto Weddigen.

However, had they had sufficient time to launch other lifeboats from H.M.S. Hawke, then undoubtedly more would have been saved by the Norwegians.

 

There is a Corporal George Weeds

Name: WEEDS, GEORGE WILLIAM

Rank: Corporal Regiment/Service: East Yorkshire Regiment Unit Text: 2nd Bn.

Age: 24 Date of Death: 06/02/1915 Service No: 8757

Additional information: Son of George and Eliza Weeds, of Mills Rd., Vogeltown, Brooklyn, Wellington, New Zealand. London, England.

Grave/Memorial Reference: B. 16. Cemetery: RAMPARTS CEMETERY, LILLE GATE

 

www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=446971

 

(Again, no obvious link with Thorpe)

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L\Cprl S J Whatley

 

Name: WHATLEY, SYDNEY JOHN

Rank: Lance Corporal Regiment/Service: Coldstream Guards Unit Text: 1st Bn.

Age: 22 Date of Death: 14/09/1914 Service No: 8919

Additional information: Son of Mr. G. R. Whatley, of 15, Goldwell Rd., Lakenham, Norwich.

Grave/Memorial Reference: IV. J. 4. Cemetery: VENDRESSE BRITISH CEMETERY

 

www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=323246

 

Norlink Picture

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Norlink notes

 

Sidney Whatley was from Thorpe St. Andrew, Norwich. He was killed in action on 14th September 1914

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Pvte A Luker

 

Name: LUKER, ALFRED Initials: A

Rank: Private

Regiment: Northumberland Fusiliers

Unit Text: 1st Bn.

Age: 27 Date of Death: 09/09/1914 Service No: 963

Additional information: Son of Alfred Luker, of 7, Ebenezer Terrace, Wymondham, Norfolk. Served on the North West Frontier of India (1908).

Memorial: LA FERTE-SOUS-JOUARRE MEMORIAL

 

www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=879543

 

Norlink Picture

 

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Norlink notes

Private Luker was from Thorpe St. Andrew, Norwich. He died on 9th September 1914

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1915

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2nd Lt L C Wilson

 

Name: WILSON, LAURENCE CECIL

Rank: Second Lieutenant

Regiment: Norfolk Regiment

Age: 19

Date of Death: 12/08/1915

Additional information: Son of Cecil and Annie M. Wilson, of High House, Thorpe.

Grave/Memorial Reference: In South-West part. Cemetery: THORPE-NEXT-NORWICH (ST. ANDREW) CHURCH CEMETERY

 

www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2802347

 

Norlink Picture

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Norlink notes

Second Lieutenant Wilson died of his wounds, 12th August 1915.

 

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Private B E Newson

 

(Probably)

Name: NEWSON, BASIL ERIC

Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Essex Regiment Unit Text: 1st Bn.

Date of Death: 13/08/1915 Service No: 20617

Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 144 to 150 or 229 to 233. Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL

 

www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=683076

 

Norlink picture

 

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Norlink notes

 

Private Newson was from Thorpe St. Andrew, Norwich. He died on 13th August 1915

Picture title says 3rd Norfolk Regiment and Essex Regiment

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Private J Newstead

 

Name: NEWSTEAD, JAMES ROBERT

Rank: Private

Regiment: Norfolk Regiment

Unit Text: 1st Bn.

Date of Death: 12/03/1915 Service No: 7301

Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 4. Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

 

www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=918819

 

Norlink Picture

 

norlink.norfolk.gov.uk/02_Catalogue/02_013_PictureTitleIn...

 

Norlink notes

 

Private Newstead was from Thorpe St. Andrew. He died 13th December 1915.

 

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Private F Peachman

 

Name: PEACHMAN, FREDERICK

Rank: Private

Regiment: Norfolk Regiment

Unit Text: 7th Bn.

Date of Death: 13/10/1915 Service No: 12040

Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 30 and 31. Memorial: LOOS MEMORIAL

 

www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=1766507

Norlink Picture

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But note Picture says Harry Peachman in handwritten in the frame - see below

 

Norlink notes

 

Private Peachman was from Thorpe St. Andrew in Norwich. He died on 13th October 1915

 

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Private H G Peachman

 

Name: PEACHMAN, HARRY GEORGE

Rank: Private

Regiment: Essex Regiment

Unit Text: 1st Bn.

Date of Death: 13/08/1915 Service No: 20703

Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 144 to 150 or 229 to 233. Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL

 

www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=683124

 

No Norlink picture - but possibly the picture attributed by Norlink as being Frederick may actually be Harry.

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Private W Woodcock

 

Name: WOODCOCK, WILLIAM VALENTINE

Rank: Private

Regiment: Norfolk Regiment

Unit Text: "D" Coy. 9th Bn.

Age: 23 Date of Death: 26/09/1915 Service No: 15701

Additional information: Son of Joseph and Harriet Woodcock, of 2, School Lane, Thorpe, Norwich.

Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 30 and 31. Memorial: LOOS MEMORIAL

 

www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=737717

 

Norlink Picture

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Norlink notes

 

Private Woodcock was from Thorpe St. Andrew, Norwich. He died on 26th September 1915

 

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1916

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2nd Lt T W Dowse

 

Name: DOWSE, THOMAS WILLIAM

Rank: Second Lieutenant

Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers

Unit Text: 34th Div. Sigs.

Date of Death: 07/09/1916

Cemetery: GOLDERS GREEN CREMATORIUM

 

www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=4028126

 

Norlink Picture

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Norlink notes

 

Dowse, Second Lieutenant Thomas William, M.C., Norfolk Yeomanry, 10th Norfolks, 34th Div. Roayl Engineers.

 

Second Lieutenant was born in Dublin on 23rd January 1893, the son of Russell and Edith Annie Dowse. He enlisted in October 1914 and was killed on 7th September 1916. This photograph was donated by his parents.

 

Thomas is also mentioned on the Royal Engineers memorial in Norwich Cathedral

 

www.roll-of-honour.com/Norfolk/NorwichCathedral34thNfkDiv...

Thomas’s MC was confirmed in the London Gazette of the 27th July 1916 - unfortunately the scan cuts off all the relevant details.

 

www.gazettes-online.co.uk/ViewPDF.aspx?pdf=29684&geot... dowse&exact=&atleast=&similar=

 

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Corporal J G Bird

Name: BIRD, JOHN GORDON

Rank: Corporal

Regiment: Coldstream Guards

Unit Text: 1st Bn.

Age: 20 Date of Death: 15/09/1916 Service No: 10791

Additional information: Son of William Jesse and Alice Bird, of Thunder Lane, Thorpe St. Andrew, Norwich.

Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 7 D and 8 D. Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

 

www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=768833

 

Norlink - no trace

 

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Private B Barnard

 

Probably

 

Name: BARNARD, BENJAMIN

Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Royal Fusiliers Unit Text: 35th Bn.

Age: 36 Date of Death: 05/12/1916 Service No: 39426

Additional information: Son of Henry and Elizabeth Barnard, of Skeyton, Norfolk.

Grave/Memorial Reference: O. III. G. 11. Cemetery: ST. SEVER CEMETERY EXTENSION, ROUEN

 

www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=515812

 

Two other B Barnard, but no obvious link to the area.

 

Norlink - no trace

see comment 2 below - definately this man

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Private W C Fox,

 

Probably

Name: FOX Initials: W C

Rank: Private

Regiment: Norfolk Regiment

Unit Text: 8th Bn.

Date of Death: 06/08/1916 Service No: 24210

Grave/Memorial Reference: III. P. 6. Cemetery: QUARRY CEMETERY, MONTAUBAN

 

www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=245288

 

Norlink - no trace

see comment 2 below - definately this man

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Private G S Hart

 

Name: HART, GILBERT SPENCER

Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Norfolk Regiment Unit Text: 8th Bn.

Age: 20 Date of Death: 01/07/1916 Service No: 13186

Additional information: Son of George and Emma Hart, of Yew Cottage, Chapel Lane, Thorpe, Norwich.

Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 1 C and 1 D. Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

 

www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=790042

 

Norlink Picture

 

norlink.norfolk.gov.uk/02_Catalogue/02_013_PictureTitleIn...

 

The 6th Battalion, Royal Berks went over the top alongside the 8th Norfolks on the first day of the Somme. The story of what happened to the two units can be read here,

 

www.6throyalberks.co.uk/1stJuly/default.html

 

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Private A Newstead

 

Probably - (see Norlink information)

 

Name: NEWSTEAD Initials: A

Rank: Private

Regiment: Royal Sussex Regiment

Unit Text: 2nd Bn.

Date of Death: 27/09/1916 Service No: 14716

Grave/Memorial Reference: D. 18. Cemetery: MILLENCOURT COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION

 

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Norlink Picture

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Albert is down as the Royal Sussex Regiment but appears to wearing the Britannia cap badge of the Royal Norfolks?

 

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Private E F Sabberton

 

Name: SABBERTON, ERNEST FREDERICK EDWARD

Rank: Rifleman

Regiment: London Regiment (Queen Victoria's Rifles)

Unit Text: "A" Coy. 1st/9th Bn.

Age: 35

Date of Death: 09/10/1916 Service No: 5661

Additional information: Son of Edward and Emma Jane Sabberton, of Thorpe, Norwich.

Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 9 C. Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

 

www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=810897

 

No Norlink match

 

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Private F Weeds

 

Name: WEEDS, FREDERICK

Rank: Private

Regiment: Norfolk Regiment

Unit Text: 7th Bn.

Date of Death: 12/10/1916

Service No: 16056

Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 1 C and 1 D. Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

 

www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=820202

 

No Norlink Match

see comment 2 below - definately this man

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