Seymour Junction Signal Box Track Diagram
I visited this box on 27 October 1966. I visited 4 boxes that day, see my "boxes visited" log.
www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/51601553327/in/album-...
My log entry shows '2' alongside the name. That was my way of noting that there were actually 2 copies of the track diagram installed in the box.
Dates - an incomplete story!!:
16 August 1877 - Box 1 was open before this date and named "Clowne Branch Junction".
19 June 1888 - Box 2 opened.
xx-xx-xxxx - Date of renaming to "Seymour Junction" not known.
14 March 1920 - New lever frame.
28 May 1928 - Box 3 opened. Inspected 28 May 1929 [Similar dates = suspicious???], The Board of Trade plan is here www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/52311500372/in/album-...
and the locking here www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/52312298556/in/album-...
This was part of the doubling scheme from Hall lane Junction and the plan can be seen here www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/52319318891/in/album-...
xx-xx-1963 - This 4th box opened - you'd think it would be easy to find a 1963 signal box opening date, but I can't identify one, it was before July 1963 though. 95 lever RSCo (GNofI) 4" frame.
Peter Churchman advises me:- "Unlike LMS/BR(LMR) and its predecessors, LNER/BR(ER) didn’t manufacture their own lever frames, instead buying from contractors as required.
According to a former locking fitter colleague, when BR(ER) were looking to source some new mechanical lever frames and replacement parts in mid/late 1950s, they were offered a good deal on a large consignment of lever frame parts they had in store. These had originally been manufactured for the GNR (Eire), and to their spec. For whatever reason, (e.g. an anticipated order that never came, or an order that was subsequently cancelled?) this large quantity of parts was in store and so immediately available (and it no doubt suited the makers to reclaim the space taken!). I believe the parts were then stored at Leyton workshops (former GE?), which became ER’s mechanical signalling hub.
As a result, almost all new and replacement frames on ER were latterly of this pattern, including several assembled for new SBs (Twenty Foot River, Gainsborough Trent Jcts, Horns Bridge, Seymour Jct, Dovecliffe, Netherfield Jct and Hubberts Bridge come to mind!)."
15 November 1981 - Became a fringe box to Sheffield PSB, the signalling notice can be seen starting here www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/51740511537/in/album-...
xx-xx-1982 - Very shortly after becoming fringe to Sheffield, the frame was shortened by removing levers 1-7- and renumbering levers 71-95 as 1-25, totally relocked, colour light signalling and the box took over Markham Colliery Sidings control area - the plan for this with later mark ups is here
www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/52320330632/in/album-...
Peter has supplied me with his copy of the last official (and likely actual final?) SBD, seen here www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/52320013185/in/album-...
That is how he remembers it being – after the frame had been reduced to 25 levers (former levers 71-95 relocked), and with much of the operating floor caged-off to become the relay room. This was done to move the electrical equipment up out of flood risk.
xx-xx-2006 - After the last trains the box and route was mothballed but track was stolen, the box vandalised and torched etc. Don't know an official closure date, but possibly well after the place ceased to physically exist!
My external photo of the box is here
www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/52312726114/in/album-...
A photo taken inside the box is here
www.flickr.com/photos/63260897@N07/15420182289
Some other photo of the box and area can be seen here:
1) Ivatt 2-6-0 nos 43085 & 43143 (no date but must be prior to 10 Jan 1965 as 43085 was withdrawn then) www.flickr.com/photos/152010806@N03/49819132282
2) General view of signals and 47316 in 1981 www.flickr.com/photos/chris_davis_photos/7602431802
3) Signals and 56019 in 1981 www.flickr.com/photos/chris_davis_photos/7085341645
4) External shot of box in 1985 www.flickr.com/photos/154596801@N04/4035078100
5) Box with 56035 in 1992 www.flickr.com/photos/geoffsimages/40463647573
6) Box with 58028 in 1993 www.flickr.com/photos/tunnel_one/19280596750
7) Box with 56038 & 58005 in 1997 www.flickr.com/photos/58534838@N05/6964794715
8) 2009 with the box burnt out www.flickr.com/photos/37260/11784620586
Additional links about this box can be seen here:
1) It's all History now part 3 oxcroftjunction.wordpress.com/2013/09/06/its-all-history-...
2) Railscot - www.railscot.co.uk/locations/S/Seymour_Junction/
3) Signalboxes.com - www.signalboxes.com/seymour-jn.php
A photo of the 25 lever frame is shown, also a great photo of the old box with the 1963 replacement behind.
The Sectional Appendix pages are here:
Because the box was built in 1963 the most relevant Appendix pages, in theory, would be 1969, rather than 1960.
Especially because, In the knowledge that the 1963 box wasn’t sited exactly behind the 1929 one, we would expect to see a small change in the yardages to adjacent boxes
However, this is not the case and the yardages are the same in the 1960 and 1969 SA versions. However, for completeness I've included both versions below:
1960
www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/51669857159/in/photos...
www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/51911996503/in/photos...
www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/51733470995/in/photos...
1969
www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/52318717497/in/album-...
www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/52319518881/in/album-...
The quite accurate location of the box was 444473 (Easting) 373799 (Northing), seen here on the NLS maps maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=53....
A more detailed 25 inch to the mile map is here maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=53....
Seymour Junction Signal Box Track Diagram
I visited this box on 27 October 1966. I visited 4 boxes that day, see my "boxes visited" log.
www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/51601553327/in/album-...
My log entry shows '2' alongside the name. That was my way of noting that there were actually 2 copies of the track diagram installed in the box.
Dates - an incomplete story!!:
16 August 1877 - Box 1 was open before this date and named "Clowne Branch Junction".
19 June 1888 - Box 2 opened.
xx-xx-xxxx - Date of renaming to "Seymour Junction" not known.
14 March 1920 - New lever frame.
28 May 1928 - Box 3 opened. Inspected 28 May 1929 [Similar dates = suspicious???], The Board of Trade plan is here www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/52311500372/in/album-...
and the locking here www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/52312298556/in/album-...
This was part of the doubling scheme from Hall lane Junction and the plan can be seen here www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/52319318891/in/album-...
xx-xx-1963 - This 4th box opened - you'd think it would be easy to find a 1963 signal box opening date, but I can't identify one, it was before July 1963 though. 95 lever RSCo (GNofI) 4" frame.
Peter Churchman advises me:- "Unlike LMS/BR(LMR) and its predecessors, LNER/BR(ER) didn’t manufacture their own lever frames, instead buying from contractors as required.
According to a former locking fitter colleague, when BR(ER) were looking to source some new mechanical lever frames and replacement parts in mid/late 1950s, they were offered a good deal on a large consignment of lever frame parts they had in store. These had originally been manufactured for the GNR (Eire), and to their spec. For whatever reason, (e.g. an anticipated order that never came, or an order that was subsequently cancelled?) this large quantity of parts was in store and so immediately available (and it no doubt suited the makers to reclaim the space taken!). I believe the parts were then stored at Leyton workshops (former GE?), which became ER’s mechanical signalling hub.
As a result, almost all new and replacement frames on ER were latterly of this pattern, including several assembled for new SBs (Twenty Foot River, Gainsborough Trent Jcts, Horns Bridge, Seymour Jct, Dovecliffe, Netherfield Jct and Hubberts Bridge come to mind!)."
15 November 1981 - Became a fringe box to Sheffield PSB, the signalling notice can be seen starting here www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/51740511537/in/album-...
xx-xx-1982 - Very shortly after becoming fringe to Sheffield, the frame was shortened by removing levers 1-7- and renumbering levers 71-95 as 1-25, totally relocked, colour light signalling and the box took over Markham Colliery Sidings control area - the plan for this with later mark ups is here
www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/52320330632/in/album-...
Peter has supplied me with his copy of the last official (and likely actual final?) SBD, seen here www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/52320013185/in/album-...
That is how he remembers it being – after the frame had been reduced to 25 levers (former levers 71-95 relocked), and with much of the operating floor caged-off to become the relay room. This was done to move the electrical equipment up out of flood risk.
xx-xx-2006 - After the last trains the box and route was mothballed but track was stolen, the box vandalised and torched etc. Don't know an official closure date, but possibly well after the place ceased to physically exist!
My external photo of the box is here
www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/52312726114/in/album-...
A photo taken inside the box is here
www.flickr.com/photos/63260897@N07/15420182289
Some other photo of the box and area can be seen here:
1) Ivatt 2-6-0 nos 43085 & 43143 (no date but must be prior to 10 Jan 1965 as 43085 was withdrawn then) www.flickr.com/photos/152010806@N03/49819132282
2) General view of signals and 47316 in 1981 www.flickr.com/photos/chris_davis_photos/7602431802
3) Signals and 56019 in 1981 www.flickr.com/photos/chris_davis_photos/7085341645
4) External shot of box in 1985 www.flickr.com/photos/154596801@N04/4035078100
5) Box with 56035 in 1992 www.flickr.com/photos/geoffsimages/40463647573
6) Box with 58028 in 1993 www.flickr.com/photos/tunnel_one/19280596750
7) Box with 56038 & 58005 in 1997 www.flickr.com/photos/58534838@N05/6964794715
8) 2009 with the box burnt out www.flickr.com/photos/37260/11784620586
Additional links about this box can be seen here:
1) It's all History now part 3 oxcroftjunction.wordpress.com/2013/09/06/its-all-history-...
2) Railscot - www.railscot.co.uk/locations/S/Seymour_Junction/
3) Signalboxes.com - www.signalboxes.com/seymour-jn.php
A photo of the 25 lever frame is shown, also a great photo of the old box with the 1963 replacement behind.
The Sectional Appendix pages are here:
Because the box was built in 1963 the most relevant Appendix pages, in theory, would be 1969, rather than 1960.
Especially because, In the knowledge that the 1963 box wasn’t sited exactly behind the 1929 one, we would expect to see a small change in the yardages to adjacent boxes
However, this is not the case and the yardages are the same in the 1960 and 1969 SA versions. However, for completeness I've included both versions below:
1960
www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/51669857159/in/photos...
www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/51911996503/in/photos...
www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/51733470995/in/photos...
1969
www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/52318717497/in/album-...
www.flickr.com/photos/192151030@N08/52319518881/in/album-...
The quite accurate location of the box was 444473 (Easting) 373799 (Northing), seen here on the NLS maps maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=53....
A more detailed 25 inch to the mile map is here maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=53....