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Paul Jaisini:

 

Don’t flatter yourself . There is no such a thing as computer art. Computer programming…maybe,but not an art.

 

Barbara Rosenthal: Ummm. The medium is not the message, as I never seem to stop saying. The pencil doesn’t or doesn’t provide for a great artwork; the computer does or doesn’t provide for a great artwork. It depends on who’s got the tool in hand.

 

Paul Jaisini: Hello Barbara Rosenthal,u r always welcome.Philosophy is just clever disguised mental illness I don’t want 2 get into discussion about this topic & support & promote this idea in-general. Kids, who gonna pay 4 our philosophical games. Computer was designed 2 to do multitasking- not humans.Digital-dead end 4 the FINE ART. After all why do I care about visual shit…I’m creating Invisible paintings for over 19 years now,and my tool is my very visible brush

 

Paul Jaisini: Anybody can generate 10000000000000 “art works” a week with magic electronic Pandora box ,and u don’t need 2 be even talentless,just smart enough 2 press the buttons the end.

 

Kathy Schnapper Disagree, and I say this as an art historian rather than as an artist. Barbara Rosenthal has it right. BTW, that was essentially the argument used against photography.

 

Paul Jaisini: Kathy Schnapper dear u dont know Paul Jaisinipersonally ,but I do. You must get 2 know him better,than u gonna change your sex.

 

Paul Jaisini: Art must be categorized in order 2 avoid chaos & confusion in to:-An Industrial art -Craft art /installations/-Textile design /abstract expressionism/ (starting from Rothko,etc..- Computer art must be categorized according to decay of mental illness in each categories- Fine/High art

 

This way we will have no chaos or abstract expressionism mistaken for the new style/idea, NOT ANYMORE !!!

 

NOW…My Invisible Paintings cannot be categorized as of yet. But I promise u; by the time u will be able 2 see it - it wouldn’t be necessary.Thanks. Paul Jaisini

 

Matthew Florez And so “Computer Programming” is NOT an Art? I know some REAL programmers who would disagree. It seems that you have a very narrow view as to what is art. Why is this? Human beings make technology. It is our main creative act as a species. We externalize our imaginations. And we do it through and with technology that we as a species have created. Human beings also make expressions of their inner selves. Paint brushes do not grow on trees. Computers and paint brushes are both invented technology. And who would we be as artists if we did not use any technology available to us to produce art. I do not have the space or the time to paint-as much as I would love to. And I have life responsibilities that prevent me from pursuing a life in art, which would facilitate me being able to realize my visions with other media. If I waited for the perfect media or the perfect circumstances, then I’d never get to express myself. Don’t kid YOURSELF. WE ARE ARTISTS. and what we do IS ART. If it’s not art that you like- why not go and post somewhere with art that you like. Remember: THERE IS NO ACCOUNTING FOR TASTE. “Good art” and “Bad Art” are in the mind of the beholder. I would love to see some of your “Invisible Paintings” but I’m not so sure that walking into a gallery and discounting all of the art displayed right to the artists faces is really a good way to ingratiate yourself into an artistic community. EVERYONE’S expression is valid. If you don’t like it then it merely comes down to personal aesthetics.

 

Paul Jaisini: Fucking can’t forgive myself 2 open this chat & promoting the very core of the evil - computer + shitty art that can be produced by 5 year old by 1000 an hour. Fuck ur philosophy, cyborgs.

 

Matthew Florez: So what is your goal, Paul? Do you want all of us to stop? Do you want this page to go away? Would it be better that I go out and destroy instead of creating? Is that a viable alternative? Would you condemn a bunch of mere mortals to not express themselves because you don’t like the medium? ANYTIME that someone is creating instead of doing what the majority of humans do with their time on this planet is good. Any creative act is an act of redemption. And it should be celebrated and encouraged. Putting down creative people merely because their aesthetics differ from yours doesn’t make you an artist-it makes you a critic. And what are critics, other than people with opinions.

 

Paul Jaisini: It’s 4 ur own good,trust me. Everything we human created will be up in our dead ass very soon. Technology polluting our kids + precious planet to the point of no return .Stop polluting art arena too Learn art that survived all technologies & revolutions ; just canvas and biodegradable oil paintings and create your shit…

 

Matthew Florez ”Your argument is invalid.”~Cy Borg.

 

Paul Jaisini: OCD ODD freaks.

 

Matthew Florez: Ok, perhaps. But you are insulting a bunch of artists for no good reason other than you don’t like the medium. And you have offered NO constructive advice. As I’ve already stated, switching media is not an option. So rather than be an “artist” and offering something constructive, you criticize. Is that an artistic statement? Or are you merely smashing it with a big stick? What does that make YOU? If you are an artist-CREATE! Don’t destroy. That makes you just like the rest of the world. ”You must be able to paint a perfect rose in the midst of a war zone.”

 

Paul Jaisini: Don’t u read or remember nothing above? I’m painting Invisible paintings for over 19 years & I don’t care about today’s visible art in-general . What media? I didn’t insult no one ,just sharing my opinion about pointless attempt 2 create long forgotten ”Computer Art. Hollywood created 3D art 20 years ego. Maybe from this chat one guy will get the point - its fine by me. Controversy creates publicity 4 the “Art” like this & I’m blaming myself 2 give u such publicity . dont contact me no more unless u gonna quit polluting minds & planet.

 

Matthew Florez: I didn’t contact you. I was here with my fellow artists and you came in, uninvited, and began mouthing off. And you DID insult everyone here. And what “publicity”? On this little page, seen only by like-minded artists with the exception of-YOU. If you think that saying “fuck you” is not offensive, then I’m surprised you made it out of grade school alive, because you obviously don’t understand what is ofensive and what isn’t.

 

Andre Bidu: “There’s no such thing as computer art” - Disagreed.”Philosophy is just clever disguised mental illness” - Disagreed.

 

”To have abstract expressionism mistaken for the new style/idea.”: This was just a funny remark.

 

”Anybody can generate 10000000000000 “art works” a week with magic electronic Pandora box” = This is actually GOOD.

 

Paul thinking that just by posting “ ”, it makes him look smarter or more educated than us, cyborgs: FAIL.

 

So in conclusion, why don’t you use your multitasker to click the “Leave group” button at once? us, cyborgs, already overuled you “opinion about pointless attempt 2 create long forgotten “Computer Art” HIGHLY IRRELEVANT.

 

Matthew Florez And if you really don’t care, then why are you so angry and adamant? It seems like you DO care. An awful lot, in fact… If you really don’t care what ARE you doing here? Do you get off on putting other people down?

 

Andre Bidu and just to rest the case: ” The pencil doesn’t or doesn’t provide for a great artwork; the computer does or doesn’t provide for a great artwork. It depends on who’s got the tool in hand.”

 

Barbara Rosenthal THIS was interesting and to the point. Not “ ” bla bla cyborgs bla bla technopolution yadda humans yadda art ARENA bla bla i need attention

 

Paul Jaisini Judging your results - u all have no idea what art is all about. Its not ego-centrism & maniacal ambition ,its something u will never get while u in digital cocoon. U need to get out more and fly=refresh your RAM & HDD

 

Paul Jaisini Kids art 4 kids - Fine art 4 masters !!!! the END!

 

Matthew Florez And judging from that answer, you have no idea what art is for or why human beings make it.

 

Whatever, Dude! Paul I think you’ve missed your true calling: NOT an artist, but an instigator.

 

Maël Lencot Paul, trolling computer artist since 1994.Are you here for anything else Paul ?

 

Paul Jaisini I was talking 2 dude? I see…What a waist.. thanks god I was drinking wine while chatting .In Europe getting dark I will go out 2 enjoy life & 1000 years old art that still contemporary today, because its made by humans not computers.

 

Matthew Florez And I, who do not have that luxury, will look at my friend’s wonderful art, and with my eyes, see directly into their hearts.

 

Will Becker wow thnx Paul Jaisini! everything has finally become clear *throws computer into bathtub with self*

 

Por No Graphy GO F URSELF

 

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