I started manipulating photo images on the computer to get color compositions and tonal values for oil paintings. I'm not a patient person by nature and the speed at which one could change and alter images kind of blew me away. I also leaned how much knowledge and practice it takes to get a really good raw photo images and have come to appreciate that to a much larger degree. I've gone from nature and photo-chopped to photo-shopped to trying to get really good raw photo's. I am somewhat of an obsessive type and find myself becoming lost at times, in the making of images. I'm here to learn. Any constructive criticism is welcome, if it is more than I can bare I'll remove that invitation from my profile description.