_KOM Flash Report for Labor Day Weekend 2013 appears here.

The KOM League

Flash Report

for

Labor Day Weekend 2013

 

Latest update on mortality:

 

www.tributes.com/show/George-W.-Schneider-88100168

Long ago I located George Schneider in Raleigh, North Carolina. Since then I hadn't heard from him for years. I verified him through my contact information and also the SSN of 082-20--_ _ _ _ . I show that he was living in Richmond Hills, NY when he signed with the Dodgers. Schneider was a member of the Ponca City Dodger pitching staff for a brief time in 1947.

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The following type of comments are what cause me to arise from my catatonic stupor, every few days look for a computer, sometimes recognize it and then attempt to piece together a report. This report is way too long so don’t attempt to consume it at one sitting. WARNING: This report might be so boring to you that it will put you to sleep. Do not read and operate heavy machinery at the same time or read while holding a hot cup of coffee. You might awaken to first and second degree burns “all over your body.”

 

The first comment must relate to the fact I found my computer. “Mr. Hall you are fantastic.” The sender of that added “I played legion ball in Southeast Kansas and was scouted by Zack Wheat and Mickey Owen--baseball in fifties was great." Thomas McCray

 

Ed reply:

 

I worked in a grocery chain with Zack Wheat's grandson. We called him Wheaties. . There is a little park north of Camdenton, MO that is called “Zack Wheat Park” and it is laid out like a ball field. It is small but on first base is engraved the number of singles he had, second base the number of doubles and the same thing for third and home. It is a rather unique set up

 

The birthday gift

Good stuff, John. 'My birthday present (yesterday) from you to me. bob schwarz--1950 Iola Indians--Clifton Park, NY

 

Ed note:

 

Mr. Schwarz was referring to the most recent Flash Report. Since it was sent on August 23 and it got to him the day after his birthday, I deduce that he was born on August 22nd. I’m not putting down the year of birth. There are only ten former KOM leaguers who are not as yet 80 years of age or older and by this time next year everyone of them will be at least four-score years of age.

 

The children of the former players stay in touch

 

Mr. Hall, Hi, How are ya? I hope all is well with you and yours. I'm Linda Hammond, Ed Wilson's daughter. I enjoy reading about all the ball players and their careers. I completely understand that your flash reports are a lot of work but I want you to know that I do enjoy reading them. Thanks for your time, With all my blessing's to you, Ed Wilson's daughter, Linda Hammond--Topeka, Kansas

 

Ed note:

 

Ed Wilson was a member of the 1948 Miami, OK Owls and after that season was not heard from by KOM fans until he showed up to pitch for the Iola Indians in 1952. Ed was a long time friend of this editor and we had a weekly chat late Sunday evening during the time his wife was in a nursing home. He visited her every day and fed her. On Sunday evening’s it was time to unwind. When he passed away, in 2002, a number of his former KOM teammates and Topeka baseball buddies showed up for the funeral. It was sort of like a mini-KOM reunion. The funeral procession led to a cemetery west of Ottawa, Kansas. There he was reunited with the lady he always talked about during our very late Sunday night telephone conversations. There are a lot of Ed Wilson stories to tell. If you never saw Ed but would want a description of his physical appearance and pitching style, think of the former big league hurler, Stu Miller.

 

Note from a Kansan who remembers me from a previous life

 

A fellow with whom I worked on some major automated systems, in Kansas government, during the time I was a “productive” member of society sent along the following stating it reminded him of me. “I entered 10 puns in a contest to see which would win....No pun in ten did.” I doubt that I will ever shake off the barnacles of my past.

 

Ed reply: Edited to keep the rest of the readership from being too bored.

 

It's good to be remembered even if it’s a pun that brought me to mind. I might have to work that one into my next Flash Report if there happens to be another one.

 

I received a call from Topeka yesterday. The folks at the State Historical Society sure want me to donate my "collected works" to them. I keep thinking that they figure I'm an old washed up relic and don't need or want that stuff any longer. I don't know what I have that would be of interest to anyone but a member of that agency volunteered to drive to Columbia to look over anything I might have that I'd let go of before I croak. I told the representative I had about a half century of complete yearly sets of Sporting News and Sports Illustrated issues since SI was founded but I learned there is no interest in those documents. I told the caller I had about a thousand copies of the Mantle book and that didn't cause the interest meter to rise either.

 

When I related having every letter from the past 19 years that the former players had sent the interest perked up. I learned pretty shortly that is the type of material historical societies covet. I related r they weren't in any sort of order but was assured that is something the society would love to have. I can't imagine what they would do with such stuff.

 

In short, if I ever part with the stuff I have, that my grandsons don't want, I imagine giving it to a state historical society would be the best approach. As the person told me yesterday, the material would be held in perpetuity. I'd just as soon it be held inside out of the elements but being held in perpetuity would be okay.

 

Ed comment:

 

I felt pretty happy to know that the letters sent to me over the years by guys talking about their KOM experiences is of more historical value, to some folks, than the reams of newsprint and magazine going back over a half century.

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Vindication of a story in previous report

 

You did not misrepresent me to the Carthage Museum lady. My book on the ASL/A- (Arkansas State league) was supposed to come out June 1, 2013 (missed it by that much!) and about one month ago my publisher/editor said he was editing the book but I still haven't seen a single page of it. It seems likely now that it might be next spring before the book comes out. At this point, I feel like the proverbial mushroom - fed you know what and kept in the dark! Ha, ha, ha. Jerry Hogan--Fayetteville, Ark.

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Someone missed the Bill Virdon TV video

 

Was very interested, to read the Virdon comments, but the URL did not work for me. I was livid when Frank Lane traded Bill to the Pirates for Bobby Del Greco, and wrote a lengthy letter to Lane, expressing me feelings. Del Greco's batting average after the trade vindicated my comments. Received no response from Lane, or Cardinal office. Darryl Lawson in Michigan

 

Ed note:

 

Since Darryl couldn’t pull up that site I resubmitted it to him. And, I’m placing it in this report, once more, to ensure everyone else got it. If they did this is a space filler.

. Celebrate West Plains: Bill Virdon Reflects on his career -- ky3.com www.ky3.com/.../Celebrate-West-Plains-Bill-Virdon-re...Aug 14, 2013Bill Virdon met his wife in West Plains. Virdon was a World Series-winning outfielder for the Pirates in 1960

 

Darryl was from St. Louis and in 1950 met and married a classmate of Shirley Virdon, at Southeast Missouri State University, who wasn’t as yet married to Bill. As a result of the resubmitted story of Bill and Shirley, Darryl sent the following e-mail to Shirley Virdon this week.

 

As a devout Gas Houser, Knot Holer, and Redbird fan, and with MANY Cardinal fans, our spirits, when our times come, will dedicate ourselves to haunt the spirit of Frank Lane, for trading Bill to Pittsburgh, for Bobby Del Greco ( who proved our judgments) in his Cardinal "career."

 

My VERY best wishes go to Mr. Center Field, and my best to you.

 

I was introduced to Erma Lee on the front steps of AD building in Cape Girardeau, by Bev Causino. in 1950. Erma Lee and I were married 60 years + 3 days 1 January 1953---4 January 2013.

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Testing the old man’s memory

 

Johnny: Do you remember the dent in the right-field scoreboard at Muny Park, about eight inches from the top? Legend has it that a Springfield ballplayer by the name of Stanley Frank Musial put it there. -- Corky

 

Ed note:

 

Only one person on this planet calls me Johnny. So, when I get a note with that salutation I knew its coming from the best sportswriter I ever rode double with on my red Western Auto bicycle. It had Bendix brakes on it by the way. The youth of my era used to argue which type of bicycle brakes were the best. Those of us with Bendix thought our brand was best but the kids with the expensive bikes had New Departure brakes. They probably stopped about equally well as we all went flying over the handle bars.

 

Ed reply:

 

I don't recall that but I do recall seeing Musial’s name signed into the top of the third base dugout. It was etched in the tar that covered it. Musial would have had to put it there in 1941 and I'm sure it didn't last ten years. And, Musial played for Springfield that year and their visiting team dugout was down the first base line. I once told Bob Speake that Musial cleared that scoreboard. Bob shrugged and said he did it a number of times. I think Musial was the first guy to do it. I'll confess I didn't see anyone clear it in 1951. But, the Carthage boys didn't have the power to wallop very many of them. The guy I recall hitting the most was Tommy Kordas. He'd usually hit one over the head of the centerfielder for an inside the park homer in the 9th. Today those would be called "Run off homers." What talent Tommy had in power he compensated for in a lack of speed. Carthage had a total of 24 homers during the entire season. Bernie Tomicki led the club with eight followed by Kordas who had six, George Beck surprisingly hit four, Russ Oxford who recently passed away had three and Gary Hicks, manager Don Anderson and Len Van de Hey rounded out the power drives with one each. We didn’t lose many balls in that era via the home run route.

 

I don't want to offend any of the guys, but in the long run, Leonard Van de Hey turned out to have the greatest amount of success in the game. He put up some eye popping batting averages in later years and had a shot with the New York Giants. He came along at the time of Whitey Lockman, Willie McCovey, Orlando Cepeda, Bill White and that bunch. He went to spring training and the Giants tossed him a glove and told him "Go out and make the team." To make the team he had to oust all of the aforementioned from the first base position. The Giants eventually sent him to the Washington Senators organization for Carlos Paula, another guy who "just missed" the Hall of Fame.

 

Don Biebel was a very good catcher. John Curtis, a lefty from the Cubs in the late 50's and early 60's told me that Biebel was the best catcher he ever pitched to and that he had pitched to Del Crandall during his career. Without the Korean War I think Walt Babcock, Bud McClure, John Mudd and a couple of others might have had some good years in the high minors for the Cubs.

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A very unpleasant diversion:

 

Attempts are ongoing to find the 120 former KOM leaguers that I’ve never been able to locate. After finding a former player efforts are conducted to maintain contact. When I don’t hear from someone within a reasonable amount of time the Social Security Death Index and other resources are checked. This past week one of the fellows whose spikes I used to clean and hang his uniform when it came back from the cleaners was the subject of a search. I did so since I hadn’t heard from him in a few years. When I entered his name on Google I got his photo as well as a disturbing story. You think I’m going to give the URL and include the story here? Guess again.

 

However, I did share the URL with a few of the fellow’s former teammates and a couple of my buddies from their time hanging out at the Carthage ball park. Here is the story in a veiled and edited form.

 

Note to a few folks:

 

Hey guys, I try to keep up with those from the 1951 club but in a story I found out of (City--State) today, I wish I hadn't. You won't recognize the face but I'm sure you'll remember the name. I don't think I'll be contacting him any time soon.

 

Feedback:

 

Response from a pitcher on that Carthage team indicated he wouldn’t have known the guy from the photo

 

Ed reply:

 

I wouldn't ' have recognized him either. Kind of sad that he messed up in his old age. Maybe a little dementia was involved. Didn't we call him Clark Kent? He wasn't with the team very long. He came down from (another team in another league). The Chicago Cubs meant to assign him to (another city) but messed up. You and (another good pitcher) couldn't carry all the load so Carthage kept him until they figured out he wasn't going to be of any help and they shuffled him off to (another city). He was (record withheld) at Carthage.

 

Response from a Carthage Cub

 

THANKS, JOHN, FOR BEING A SLEUTH. I REMEMBER HIM WELL AND HE WAS A BIG GUY THEN. I NEVER COULD HAVE GUESSED WHO HE WAS FROM THE PICTURE. HOW TO RUIN THE REST OF YOUR LIFE FOR SUCH A FOOLISH THING.

 

JOHN, YOU GOT THAT RIGHT. CLARK KENT WAS THE NAME. (Former Carthage Cub)

 

From the family of another former Carthage Cub

 

That was a shock....he doesn't look too cute either....I forgot what (former players name )said when I showed it to him this AM. We were at the Dr.'s Office this AM and the PA who was giving us a message used these words. Colon Cancer....it was never brought to our attention so abruptly.

 

From a Carthage friend

 

I don't remember Mr. (anonymous) and I'm kinda glad I don't. But I feel as badly for him as I do the young woman he allegedly fooled around with. She doesn't sound like a candidate for Person of the Year, herself, as witness this line in the story out of the (name of town) newspaper: "She said she was tired of seeing other people’s posts indicating much milder confessions. 'I was getting really annoyed and I just kind of put it out there,'” she said. What was this, some kind of competition?

 

She waited two years to file a complaint and did so then only because she felt left out or something, related to her involvement on social media. Maybe she can live a better life now and not be haunted by the old fool's advances. Meanwhile, he's got some explaining to do PDQ at the pearly gates.

 

Ed reply:

 

I think Facebook, Twitter and all that stuff is an abomination. It seems as though one person wants to outdo the other. I had the same feeling in reading it that you did. (The old ballplayer’s) life is about over but for the days he has left in that town he will always be viewed as the dirty old man. He may have had a bit of dementia by that time in his life. I think I have it or am getting close to it and I'm nearly a decade his junior. When you get to the Pearly Gates the days of explaining are long over. If I read it correctly the confessing must be done here before I get there. Wouldn't it be terrible if we all got it wrong and we found upon getting to the after life that something else was expected of us?

 

Friend’s reply:

 

Yeah, and what if we wind up in a parallel universe and it's still 1950 and we're out there in your back yard swinging a bat at a ball and doing our own announcing ("....swung on....it's back....way-way back....Holy Cow!"). In which case, I get first bats, OK? --

 

Ed reply:

 

1950 wasn't all that bad. Batter up. "It might be, it could be, it is," was the Harry Caray home run mantra.

 

Friend’s reply:

 

John: What I remember of the "Harry Caray Polka:"

 

"It might be, it could be, it IS a home run....

Holy Cow, we've got 'em now,

Come on boys, let's take our bow

Let's sing the Harry Caray Polka.

 

Glaviano's up in the pinch,

One more clout and this game's a cinch

It might be, it could be, etc.

 

Marty, Red and Howard, too

They will win this game for you.

Let's sing the Harry Caray Polka..."

 

Ed reply:

 

I've got to send tentacles out to my older readers in St. Louis to find out if they know where a copy of the Harry Caray Polka can be found or at least the entire lyrics to that song. If I find it I'll share it with you. I think we're the only two people still vertical, in this reading audience, who remember it.

 

Note from one of my St. Louis contacts, from that era.

 

“We remember someone referring to Take Me Out to the Ball Game as "Harry Caray's polka" but haven't heard of a Harry Caray Polka. Barbara After sending what lyrics I had for the Harry Caray Polka, Barbara wrote “First time I've seen these lyrics - like it!!”

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From Topeka, Kansas

 

Your mention of 19 KOM League players from Topeka caught my eye. Would you be willing to send me a list? I've been researching Shawnee County baseball history for the past several months because of my involvement with the Shawnee County Baseball Hall of Fame, and the information would be appreciated. Thanks, John.--Jan Johnson

Ed reply:

 

It's in the appendix to my big book which is all over that town. Short of that it will take me a while to compile that from my database. The biggest part of that effort is scrolling through a few thousand roster inserts. When you see that stuff you'll not find the Dodson boys as being from Topeka since they weren't born there. By the time they played baseball they were Topekans. (Actually, Lee was born in Topeka and Stokes was born in Hoyt, Kansas)

 

I have a "few" medical visits coming up between now and early September and those doctors and nurses don't like my thumbing through data files while they are trying to diagnose and treat. I just don't understand their insensitivity. Maybe I can work on it in the waiting rooms of those doctors since you never seem to be able to get in at the scheduled time.

 

If you don't see that list by the 10th of September, rattle my cage again. The reason I had those numbers in the last report was due to having gone through them a long time ago and putting down the number from each location. I didn't list their names or anything like that at the time which now appears to be a mistake since I've had a rather large number of requests from people from around the country requesting the information for their locale. One guy wanted it on a statewide basis of a state that placed a large number of young men in the KOM league. I might want to think about publishing the entire database or put it on a CD and use it to help fund my way through old age. That database represents well over 20,000 hours of research and it is still being updated and corrected after nearly 20 years of effort. I know I could give it away for different groups have begged me for it many times over the past decade. I always tell them that like good wine it won't be served before its time.

 

Jan’s reply:

 

I didn't realize I was asking for lots of additional work. Please don't go poring through thousands of records!

 

I'll try to track down the appendix information here. Which big book? I have a couple of your books, but I don't think I have the one you're talking about.

 

Ed reply:

 

I just attempted a global search on an old. database. I inserted the word "Topeka" and got names of guys who were born, played and died there. Wow!!! that was a whopper of a list. I have about three databases that have only one thing in common, the name. I wish one database contained all the data but I couldn't build one that large. What is in the Appendix 1 of Majoring in The Minors lists, in most cases; full name, place of birth, teams for which that person played during his career, hometown and place and date of death. That is what made me a recluse for nearly a decade and a half, attempting to discover that information. That information also listed the semi-pro teams for whom a number of those guys played. No official baseball record book contains that data.. I think I even have Lee Dodson's Decker Oiler days in his list of career stops. If I don't then I wrote a supplement to that appendix that showed it.

 

A quick scan of my big green book "Majoring in The Minors" reveals the following names of guys born in Topeka, those who died there and Bob Speake who moved there after his baseball career concluded: I imagine I got 98% of the names looking Appendix 1 in the aforementioned book. The book I reference is at the Kansas State Historical Society reference desk, I'd imagine. That is, if they haven't tossed it out.

 

Most of the former Topekan's: Robert Lee, Harland and Burton Coffman, Lee and Stokes Dodson), Ray Etzel, Charles "Chick" Green (played in one game at Chanute), Lester Logan, Duane Melvin, James Reaugh, Earl Hays, Charles Thomas Sleeper, Edwin Wilson, James Deines, John "Jack" Jordan, ( from Savonburg died there), Charles Stumborg (from Effingham, Illinois died there), Donald Reed ( from around Yates Center died there), Otis Bomar (murdered there and torched), Edward Haller (died there), Leonard Worthington was from Lecompton but died there, Alexander Grieves lives there but was from Burlingame, James Davis died there but was from San Antonio, TX. Charlie Bates managed Chanute two different times. He was a former big leaguer from Philadelphia and was living in Alma, KS, when he got terminally ill. He died at Stormont Vail Hospital in Topeka. I think Winlow Johnson, like Grieves, was from Burlingame and he may have died in a Topeka hospital. Dodson would know that factoid.

 

Most of the foregoing played at either Miami, OK or Chanute, KS when they were the Class D farm club of the Topeka Owls. The exceptions to that rule, as I recall were; Sleeper, the Coffman brothers, Robert Lee, James Davis and Jack Jordan.

 

All of the "vitals" on those guys are in the book I mentioned and a lot more. It is the most comprehensive reference book, in my humble opinion, on any Class D league that ever made it to the publishing stage. I think that since no one else was crazy enough to take on such an onerous project for nothing more than curiosity. The curiosity was limited, as I expected, since two editions of that book sold fewer copies than the number of residents in Auburn, Kansas. But, the book was 430 pages when I first released it and 440 the second time. The second edition had over 5,000 updates in the appendix over the first edition. If I were to publish that book again, which I won't, I suspect the number of updates would number somewhere in the 20,000+ category. It is a never ending project until I'm gone. That is why the printed newsletters and Flash Reports came along. They picked up where the book left off. Thus, the comprehensive work on the KOM league is many-fold. Long after I'm gone someone could pick up the pieces and keep adding to the lore but it would be without a very large portion of the people who participated in it as either a player or fan.

 

The book that Arcadia published wasn't much more than an outline of the big book that came out in 1994 & 2000. I guess the Arcadia book also mirrored a little of the early printed KOM league newsletters.

 

That's a brief view of the Topeka impact on the KOM league. In short, it’s tough to summarize.

 

Response from Jan:

 

Thank you, thank you! The information you sent is wonderful. I'm familiar with some of the names, but many of them are new to me. Like you, I'm big into databases and I'll be adding these guys to mine. I'll also bring your email along the next time I visit with Lee Dodson (along with the latest flash reports). It will be fun going through the list with him.

I volunteer a few hours each week at the Historical Society and also spend at lot of research time in the reading room, so it will be easy to look up Majoring in the Minors there. I'll probably be in touch again to ask some questions; hope that's OK. Thanks again, John.

 

Another note to Jan

 

Otis Bomar was from Williamson, Ks. and worked at Goodyear. His murder made big headlines in Topeka back in the 70's. I did some research on the entire murder, the burning of his body and the trial and it was after the books were published so it was in one of my newsletters.. Ask Lee Dodson sometime about the first baseman with whom he played at both Chanute and Topeka who was murdered in the living quarters of his bar in Cicero, I'll. That murder occurred in 1979 and was a cold case until the mid-nineties. They finally arrested two guys for the crime but the wheels of justice dragged on for years. I finally contacted the prosecutor in Cook County, Illinois and told him of my interest in the case and while saying he never did such a thing before he'd keep me apprised of the case. One of the two killers went Joliet. I researched him during that time and he was

sending out messages begging people to communicate with him. I started to write him and ask if he ever met Murph Malattia for that was the guy he killed and then sat at the crime scene, ate a sandwich and drank Murphy's beer.

 

Response from Jan:

 

Gee, John. Do you have this amount of detail on all the KOM players?

 

Ed reply:

 

A preface to the reply is this. Brevity is the soul of wit. So, I am thus “wit-less.” But, I’ve also heard that he who thinks himself to be a wit is usually about half right. Now to the reply.

 

Mostly, yes. Some way more. The three books I wrote, the 17 years of the KOM League Remembered newsletters and Flash Reports since 1998 that contain a few million words produced tons of information. I would say that what I have on Bomar is much below the average amount I have on over 1500 guys. Some of what I shared with you today on Bomar was uncovered today. I could go into detail on just about any player. Pull up that big green book at the Historical Society the next time you're there. I had a call from the Kansas Historical Society yesterday and I told the representative you might want to see it sometime. Go to any name in that large Appendix 1, jot it down and send it to me and see if I know about the guy and have anything on him. I'd put my chances of being able to write a few paragraphs about that person at well over 98%. Even the guys I haven't found I still know quite a bit regarding their life.

 

There are only 120 of the former KOM leaguers left that I haven't found or learned of their fate. Some baseball researchers claim some of those guys never played, but they did. I have 43% more guys showing on KOM league rosters than what the SABR records indicate. That happened because they don't count those in ten or fewer games as position players or pitchers in less than 45 innings. The reason SABR didn’t have that information is not their fault but is due to the fact their researchers had to rely heavily on the Baseball Guides put out by the Sporting News who compiled the Howe Sports Bureau data from the previous season. (Ed note: With the donation the Sporting News made to SABR of those index cards the history of minor league baseball is going to come into a whole new light. I think that will answer a lot of lingering questions about who and who didn’t play professional baseball.)

 

My research was conducted by reading every box score and sports column in every paper for every season the KOM existed. I also received scores and scores of scrapbooks from former players that I used to cross check many inconsistencies. One of the biggest problems in looking at box scores is the misspelling of names. Many were done phonetically and that required doing a lot of rechecking.

 

One of the guys who bounces things of me and me him is Ray Nemec. He owns the Heilbroner Blue Book files. That was the official document of players signing contracts. But, some were never reported to Heilbroner who played in the KOM league. I was also fortunate to find a few old major league league scouts who kept track of names in their minor league system. Those reports carried SSN's that was a valuable tool in tracking guys. I even worked out an arrangement with the Social Security Administration that helped immensely in locating many of the former hard to find players. (I won't go into that arrangement but it was legal yet complicated.)

 

Probably the greatest source and most fortunate day of my research was when I was allowed total access to the card index system at the Sporting News in St. Louis. I had never seen so many card index files in my life. I went in there with names of fellows I had not yet found. Every person who ever signed a minor or major league contract is/was in those files. Every year they played baseball the information was typed on the card. Every player transaction was noted. For example, Otis Bomar could have been signed by Reading, Calif. and optioned to Falls Church, Va. and wound up in Iola and every one of those transactions would have been on the card. But, you had to figure out where he really showed up and played a game. That was a problem with going through thousands of cards in such a short time. If you weren't careful you would be putting a guy as playing for a team when it was only a paper transaction and he never appeared in a given town.

 

I spent countless hours in the Missouri and Kansas Historical Society files. Oklahoma didn't have a central repository of old newspapers and I lived at the Miami News Record, Ponca City News, Bartlesville Examiner and Blackwell, OK newspaper offices for a few months. Finally, I worked out an arrangement with my local public library and the Kansas Historical Society on the microfilm loan project. That turned out to be the best and by far the most economical way to gather the information from the Kansas newspapers from 1946-52.

 

Here in Columbia are housed all the newspapers for this state and with Carthage being in the KOM the Carthage Evening Press was readily available. However, the Joplin Globe was used extensively since it carried summaries of all KOM league games and their editors did a better job of getting the names spelled correctly.

 

Well, that briefly outlines how I ran down the history of the KOM league as well by talking to former owners, managers, players, radio announcers, sportswriters, batboys, fans and girlfriends of the guys who played. I don't think I missed many of the pertinent details. Just today I verified the death of a former Ponca City Dodger pitcher from 1947. He was from Richmond Hills, NY but died in Raleigh, North Carolina in 2010. That data was sent to the guys who work in "big time" research for that man's inclusion into their necrology files.

 

Most of the fellows I spoke with in the early days of my project, by telephone, I recorded. I had some many cassette tapes I hardly knew what to do with them. Then the reunions started and I had scores of VHS tapes of interviews etc. and even a couple of times we had professionals make highlight CD's or tapes of the event. All those people thought they were cinematographers but unfortunately, they turned out to be less than award winning. I guess the reunions turned out to be the last great memories for large numbers of former players and their spouses. We actually had people come off death beds to attend reunions only to return home and die shortly afterward. That is the way they wanted it. I think some willed to survive just to see their old teammates one last time. This could go on forever. It's over.

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A note from a Canadian reader--the only one I have

 

I just noticed former Cardinal outfielder Harry Elliott died Aug. 9th. I cannot recall trying to contact Harry however I may have due to the fact he played in a few games with the 57 Vancouver Mounties and spent two seasons with San Diego, 54 and 56. I know I did not have his 55 Topps card at the time.

 

Ed reply:

 

I have a photo of Elliott nearby. There were high hopes for the Cardinal outfielders in 1956. On the March 5 cover of Sports Illustrated was a photo of Virdon, Repulski, Elliott, Musial and someone else leaping up as if they were catching fly balls.

 

Before that season got going real good Frank Lane made the great move of shipping Virdon off to the Pirates for Bobby Del Greco. Whatta' move. One of the worse moves in Cardinal history. The worst may have been Steve Carlton for Rick (Un)Wise. No "may have" at all, it was the worst trade in Cardinal history. The Cardinals probably would have won at least three pennants with Carlton. I pulled that SI out again. The other face on the cover was Wally Moon. Harry Elliott was a far better pianist than ball player. He played at a high level during the big band era.

 

Note on Harry Elliott was sent to Shirley Virdon, Bill’s bride.

 

On that note I sent about Harry Elliott he and Bill had something else in common, neither of them got to play (much) for the Cardinals in 1956 even though they went to Spring training together. In a story I read about Harry, he was a very good piano player and played professionally basically playing big band tunes. He was 29 by the time he made it to the Cardinals in 1953. When he died he was one of the 100 oldest living former big league players.

 

Reply from Shirley Virdon

 

Bill played almost two months before being traded. We had rented a house in Lemay from Joe Becker who was coaching for the Cubs. It was "wholesale time" for several Cardinals that spring! Now I'm trying to remember Harry's wife's name. I think it was Mary Lou, but not sure!!! They lived in Austin, Minn. in 1955-1956 in the off-season. Of course, they may not have stayed married all these years! Thanks for info.

Blessings, Shirley V.

Ed reply:

 

You were right. His wife was Mary Louise. She died and his obituary listed his significant other as Bernie Jean Estes. Harry married Mary Louise Field in 1950. They had seven children. He must have been living with his son in Lyons, Kansas before they placed him in a nursing home east of there in Little River.

 

Note to Shirley Virdon

 

Erby Carroll played for Bartlesville in 1946 with Jack (Bum)Garner. Jack always remembered him and before he died he wanted to know if I ever heard from Erby. Erby was from Viola, Arkansas and lived many years in Victorville, California. I have come up with a lead that he might have moved to West Plains in recent years. He is now 94 and if he lives another few years he'll be as old as his dad did. Thought that might be of interest to you as a former Zizzer. (or however you spell the West Plains High school mascot’s name).

 

KOM trivia: Two oldest surviving KOMers are Arkansas natives.

 

The oldest living members of the KOM league are Erby Rue Carroll from the 1946 Bartlesville Oilers and Vernon Snow of the 1947 Miami, Owls. Carroll was a native Viola, Arkansas and Snow was from Berryville in Carroll County. Snow has stayed put in Arkansas while Carroll lived many years in Victorville, CA. I was doing some checking recently and found where Carroll has moved back to the Midwest and lives in West Plains, MO. He's back in the stomping grounds of Preacher Roe, Bill Virdon, Ted Gullic, Porter Wagoner and Dick Van Dyke.

 

Erby Rue Carroll was born 11/30/1919 and Vernon Snow 9/11/1919. Both Snow and Carroll recall playing with and against Preaher Roe in some of those amateur games in the late 30's. They even recall the "All Girls" team Roe managed. The last time I spoke with those two fellows they were still sharp. Snow couldn’t hear me too well since he was out in the heat of the afternoon, mowing his yard.

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